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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    Uh, nope. WoW so successfully prevented bots from using /tell spam that botters resorted to using scripts that would cause the bots to leap to their death outside of Orgrimmar in a pattern that spelled out the gold selling site's name with the corpses.
    Thats some strange dedication on the Botter's part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    Thats some strange dedication on the Botter's part.
    Yes, and Blizzard did it by using the same chat restrictions for low level characters that I'm suggesting. While it's true that botters will always find a way to advertise, it's also true that means can be taken to make the advertising less intrusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    Yes, and Blizzard did it by using the same chat restrictions for low level characters that I'm suggesting. While it's true that botters will always find a way to advertise, it's also true that means can be taken to make the advertising less intrusive.
    And none of your ideas will do that. All they're going to do is screw over new players for no reason because arbitrary level restrictions don't mean anything to RMT who will easily bot their way to the required level anyway. We already have anti-RMT restrictions that don't work and only make life for players a hassle (I'm looking at you, friends-list-only mailing), we don't need more. If you want SE to add a meaningful way to limit RMT spam you should be asking them for something like custom chat filters instead.

    And last I checked WoW still has RMT spam too, not sure why you think Blizzard eliminated them. They simply spam Trade chat instead of sending whispers since most players hang out in cities. Unfortunately, unlike most other games FFXIV doesn't have any kind of global chat channel (Novice Network notwithstanding) and I would assume it's inefficient to post spam bots in every single zone so the RMT inundate us with tells instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    And none of your ideas will do that. All they're going to do is screw over new players for no reason because arbitrary level restrictions don't mean anything to RMT who will easily bot their way to the required level anyway. We already have anti-RMT restrictions that don't work and only make life for players a hassle (I'm looking at you, friends-list-only mailing), we don't need more. If you want SE to add a meaningful way to limit RMT spam you should be asking them for something like custom chat filters instead.
    What are you talking about? Low level /tell restriction would impact gil sellers tremendously, and new players would hit 15 before they ever noticed it was a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    What are you talking about? Low level /tell restriction would impact gil sellers tremendously, and new players would hit 15 before they ever noticed it was a thing.
    So how's that working out, btw? Free trial players can't send tells until level 15 or 20 (which they have to buy the game to keep leveling), yet here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    What are you talking about? Low level /tell restriction would impact gil sellers tremendously, and new players would hit 15 before they ever noticed it was a thing.
    It would be nice if low level /tell restrictions worked, but it likely won't, and there's proof of that in IMCgames' Tree of Savior. They put a level 40 restriction on shout, and the RMT salesmen simply leveled up to 40 and started spamming shout. IMC restricted their game up the ass, just to fight off RMT, but all it really did was hurt the legitimate players

    I think that might be why SE isn't putting a bunch of restrictions on everything: it hurts their legitimate paying customers more than it does the cancerous RMT.
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