Bloodletter and Rain of Death

[FoxyAreku]

I have the best way to fix them and it's rather simple. Take out WM, problem solved.

Bards have DPS problems WITH WM. This is the last solution.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Bards have DPS problems WITH WM. This is the last solution.

WM adds no true damage to Bard DPS. All it does is factor in the auto attack that we lose to WM into your weapon skills. You can test this yourself on a 60 training dummy your auto attack and weapon skill will equal out to be in the same damage range as your skills with WM. Sidewinder is already not gated behind WM so neither does IJ and EM. There was no reason for them to add WM to Bard other than the fact they got pure lazy. Had they just gave Bard an overall damage buff and add more support skills like Valor Voice, Voice of Fortitude and Relentless March, which Jehantel has. The class would be much better off than it is now.

[FoxyAreku]

snip.

Incorrect. Autoattacks were roughly 20% of a bard's dps, WM adds 30%, AND makes abilities like sidewinder, flaming arrow, rain of death, etc, hit harder, so it really comes to an even bigger increase than that. And that's not even talking about the huge DPS increase that emp and iron jaws gives you. WM is a huge buff, and removing it without adding something MASSIVE in return at this point would make the class 100% unplayable to the point where they would get laughed out of parties.

WM also added a bit of depth to a class that was completely braindead in 2.0, which I enjoy, but that's just my own opinion.

[enthauptet]

One thing they should do is make the next skill after repelling shot instant cast since if you don't time it perfectly you get cast canceled. This could also be implemented with bloodletter to allow you to use a 2nd bloodletter instant recast.

[RLofOBFL]

WM adds no true damage to Bard DPS. All it does is factor in the auto attack that we lose to WM into your weapon skills. You can test this yourself on a 60 training dummy your auto attack and weapon skill will equal out to be in the same damage range as your skills with WM.

Uh...did you even try this yourself? The heavy shot+an auto attack(950+500) does MORE damage than heavy shot under WM(1200) plus the auto has a chance of Criticaling(800). I know bc I just tried it <.<


But without iron jaws or empyreal and the 30% boost on all your OGCDs, you come out waaaay weaker.

[alimdia]

'Windbite and Veno bite dot crits have a 50% chance of making the next weaponskill instant cast" (in addition to what it does now)
BAM

[Morningstar1337]

'Windbite and Veno bite dot crits have a 50% chance of making the next weaponskill instant cast" (in addition to what it does now)
BAM

That seems like an interesting fix, but what if there are two crits during the casts and before the effect takes place?