The Emperor's New Shield

[Destous]

Do you want an invisible sword too? Its only glamour changes. I've said this time and again, the animations will look so bad with an invisible shield because they aren't designed with it in mind

They'll look fine. It's not like it'll lead to bacon elbows and weird angles. It would literally be a back-handed fist bash.

[Lambdafish]

They'll look fine. It's not like it'll lead to bacon elbows and weird angles. It would literally be a back-handed fist bash.

Which goes against the entire lore/point of the job, SHIELD lob, SHIELD bash, SHIELD swipe, SHIELD oath. Getting rid of the shield causes a lot of problems when it comes to the job making sense. How can you lob a shield if you don't have a shield (glamour wise)? MNKs get away with it, because any reference to their weapon refers to "fists". The official devs response is they may consider a smaller shield, but not an invisible one, and I agree with them.

[Destous]

Which goes against the entire lore/point of the job, SHIELD lob, SHIELD bash, SHIELD swipe, SHIELD oath. Getting rid of the shield causes a lot of problems when it comes to the job making sense. How can you lob a shield if you don't have a shield (glamour wise)? MNKs get away with it, because any reference to their weapon refers to "fists". The official devs response is they may consider a smaller shield, but not an invisible one, and I agree with them.

That's an incredibly weak argument. I'm currently dressed up as a pirate on my PLD. Since when are pirates divine warriors of light? At another point, I was a chocobo DRK; since when are chocobo cosplayers wielders of dark energy? It just makes no sense, right?

I don't buy it.

[Lambdafish]

That's an incredibly weak argument. I'm currently dressed up as a pirate on my PLD. Since when are pirates divine warriors of light? At another point, I was a chocobo DRK; since when are chocobo cosplayers wielders of dark energy? It just makes no sense, right?

I don't buy it.

ok, but your cosplay doesn't have anything to do with your skills, which was my argument, this isn't about swapping your armor for a coat and eyepatch, this is about removing a piece of gear that is integral to paladin both lore wise, and more importantly, mechanically.

[Deathgiver]

Shield Lob > Enemy, "What the hell just hit me ?!?!?"

[Destous]

ok, but your cosplay doesn't have anything to do with your skills, which was my argument, this isn't about swapping your armor for a coat and eyepatch, this is about removing a piece of gear that is integral to paladin both lore wise, and more importantly, mechanically.

I posit that the PLD shield is more metaphoric than literal. Bam, now it's perfectly sensible.

[Lambdafish]

I posit that the PLD shield is more metaphoric than literal. Bam, now it's perfectly sensible.

Yeah... Shield lob and shield swipe sound very metaphorical, rather than the actions of lobbing and swiping with a shield... And apparently my argument is weak...

[Destous]

Yeah... Shield lob and shield swipe sound very metaphorical, rather than the actions of lobbing and swiping with a shield... And apparently my argument is weak...

My point is that the argument you're behind isn't any stronger than my own. It's all subjective. Yet, you kibosh the idea immediately.

[Lukha]

I don't see why the animations looking silly ought to be a problem, considering the rampant clipping issues the game already has, and the devs apparently have no intention of fixing because they'd rather just add more and more badly-made content than make what we already have look good? Seriously, as a male Miqo'te, my tail clips through literally every robe or longish coat in the game, even the ones that actually have holes to accomodate the tail; why are we worried about things not looking quite right?

If the players want it, they should give it to them, and if it looks silly to you, you can deal with it the same way people who are really bothered by clipping deal; by not glamouring that specific item.

[LeeraSorlan]

i am guilty of removing my paladin shield when i do some fights, because i look much cooler without a huge ass shield, of which there are only a few ingame that even appeal to me.so i cant shield lob or shield swipe/bash. i rarely used those things anyway. and its not like the shield is any sort of useful mitigation outside of bulwark lol. not everything, of course, just facerull stuff like VA or alex normal


im in full support of this empereors shield, lore reasons can simply go away as this game breaks lore so many times with its game mechanics lol