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  1. #3021
    Player
    Miss-Bathory's Avatar
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    Jun 2015
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rize Senpai
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Pretty much Fairies can solo heal most things early doors, for a sch its like throw up dots and see if how it's going
    (0)

  2. #3022
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    Pells's Avatar
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    Character
    P'lha Tahl
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mkei View Post
    @TheCarnivalBoy
    I don't think healing skill has anything to do with that anymore. Incoming damage was simply bigger than the incoming heals. This is not normal, which is why we let the tank set the pace.

    ...I may say that, but I just got out of a Tam-Tara Deepcroft where the healer told me to "Pull everything". So I did. We had two melee, MNK DRG, so not much for AoE. Barely put a dent in his MP. I dont play a healer, so I have no clue how he does it, but that's monstrous.

    Edit: He was SCH.
    Being overgeared helps with MP. Otherwise its a combination of mitigation, fairy healing and actively using your aetherflows.
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    Oooh, shiney...

  3. #3023
    Player
    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Character
    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    Being overgeared helps with MP. Otherwise its a combination of mitigation, fairy healing and actively using your aetherflows.
    If it was NM Tam-Tara, a SCH wouldn't have any mitigation abilities. Of course, doing big pulls in NM Tam-Tara, espcially with a MNK and DRG, is meaningless.

    Although if it was HM Tam-Tara, that's a whole different ballpark.
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  4. #3024
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    vanitaslaughing's Avatar
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    May 2015
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Xhu'lahen Tia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Remind me to just stop being a bitter grandmother next time, but seriously, if you're a dragoon and pop Blood of the Dragon only to immediately use Geirskogul and lose it, as well as never doing the Chaos Thrust combo I will find you. I will find you, and I will outdps you as AST in Cleric.

    Because that's what happened in Arbo. The DRG main inside me needs a drink asap...
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  5. #3025
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Character
    Ashe Sinclair
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Sniperoo
    It was obvious they thought they could be clever and finish the boss off before the next attack, but their DPS just wasn't enough and it ended up failing spectacularly. The NIN didn't touch Smokebomb or Shadewalker for the entire run, mainly because he was trying to take aggro to make a point. Well, he certainly made it, lol. BRD never threw up QS either.

    To be honest, I don't expect DPS to pull back to make up for me - I'm fine if they want to go all out and get it done quicker. What mystifies me is when they're actually surprised and turn nasty if they take aggro for a few seconds. I mean, really? What do you expect?

    Funnily enough, it often happens on my NIN when I do lower level dungeons (I admit sometimes I like to try and take aggro on a monster if I'm bored.) But I never blame the tank for it as long as they're doing their job properly, it's just level/ gear discrepancy.
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  6. #3026
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Character
    Ekhi Ysengrim
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Other ninjas give me a headache a lot of the time. I remember when I first started Ninjaing a tank said something along the lines of, "A well behaved Ninja, I'll be damned." I just threw it off as him being coy, but as the stories above and my own experiences have shown, a lot of rude people play Ninja. Hell, when I started tanking it only took a couple of runs with them to figure out what he meant. There was even a point I dreaded having a Ninja in the party when I was tanking. I was dreading tanking for my main class, that's not a good feeling. So I would like to say, not all Ninjas are jerks who think the run revolves around them. I do admit, I like to try and steal aggro too, but only when the tank is really good and I see it as a personal challenge. I never do it to disrupt a run or prove a point.

    Now that that rant is over, I had a fun Ravana run yesterday. We said our hellos and one of the healers said it was his first time healing it. One of the tanks responded with it not being a hard run. Doing a cursory glance I see a lot of people are in high end stuff and probably farmed RavEX; but even so, just saying that is a death flag. And sure enough, after Swift Slaughter I was the only one left standing. He was still at about 35% health and I decided to go for it. It was going pretty well, but then he put two of the purple AoEs on me and it did more damage then I had HP.
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  7. #3027
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    zmandude24's Avatar
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    Character
    Sir Garun
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    When I tanked Haukke Manor (which is a level 28 instance), I had a healer that was DPSing when I had to pop every cd I had to survive and even then there was no guarantee that would work either, but eventually the healer actually started casting cure and we did it easily.
    (1)

  8. #3028
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    Obysuca's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Character
    Ayaminae Yirien
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Did leveling as ast this morning and got halatali with an arcanist, pld and drg. A single cure would pull hate off the tank, things were dying abnormally slow, even if it was someone's first time (no new person message). I then noticed the arcanist wasn't using a pet, the drg was only spamming impulse drive and ONLY impulse drive and the pld never used a single cooldown so his hp dropped like a rock and only did riot blade combo and just spammed flash 7-8 times for hate, even when he lost it on a single mob D:

    Worst part? They all had multiple 50+s...
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  9. #3029
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    NaesakiAshwell's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    696
    Character
    Naesaki Ashwell
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Did leveling as ast this morning and got halatali with an arcanist, pld and drg. A single cure would pull hate off the tank, things were dying abnormally slow, even if it was someone's first time (no new person message). I then noticed the arcanist wasn't using a pet, the drg was only spamming impulse drive and ONLY impulse drive and the pld never used a single cooldown so his hp dropped like a rock and only did riot blade combo and just spammed flash 7-8 times for hate, even when he lost it on a single mob D:

    Worst part? They all had multiple 50+s...
    So they basically couldn't be arsed, at even the most basic level.
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  10. #3030
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    Ebonwings's Avatar
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    Feb 2016
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    Ul'dah
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    227
    Character
    Ebonwings Drakostorm
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Did a leveling roulette yesterday as WHM. I was expecting Stone Vergil. I forgot that I'm level 44 so I should be expecting DD. It turns out I got DD, and I was seriously undergear....I was using Cutter's Cry gear and could take on Stone Vergil without problem. My failure as a WHM in training..
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