30 Minute Lockout for Leaving Roulette's isn't Working as Intended.

[LineageRazor]

A big problem with the shortage of tanks/healers is how wonky the queue system is. I've had many FC members and other acquaintances ask for a tank/heal to JIP, but then when I try to jump in and help them out, I'll get shunted into a brand new run instead. I honestly think in-progress runs should take precedence over new runs even if the new runs are technically before them in the queue. The in-progress run has one or more people that already have time invested into it, plus it has a hard time limit on it.

I was confused by this, too - but then, a couple of occurrences opened my eyes to something folks don't always notice.

I was running a dungeon, and a DPS dropped. We continued on to the end of the dungeon short a member, marveling at how long it was taking to replace a DPS, of all things. Just as we approached the final boss, I noticed something: The Duty panel did not show the text "Searching for members..." It turned out that the party leader had never confirmed the search for new members! The moment he did so, a DPS popped right in.

On another, similar occasion, this time the tank was gone. I was on SMN, so was able to Titan-Egi tank for a while - and then, I noticed, once again, no "Searching for members..." We turned it on, and while a tank didn't pop right in, one did show up eventually.

On another occasion, I got word from a Linkshell that their tank had disappeared, asking if anyone could replace. I swapped to tank and attempted to do so, and ended up in a brand-new instance. I was savvy this time, though, and asked the group, "Does your Duty panel show "Searching for members..."?" At first they didn't know what I meant, but after I explained, yes, it turned out that their leader had never selected to search for new members. They turned that on, someone else in the LS signed up as tank, and popped right in.

I don't know the reason these different leaders did not start the search. In all three cases, they certainly WANTED to get new members in, but somehow they either refused, or were never presented with the option. At any rate, the next time you queue up for a run in progress and wind up in a new instance, ask the party if they're properly searching for new members.

Actually this may be a good direction to take. Make modifications to the duty finder to display if duties need roles for any in-progress party and display it on the corresponding roulette too.

The problem I see with this, is then you get lazy players who want to spend less time in dungeon, who don't even bother to sign up unless there are runs-in-progress to join. This reduces the pool of players willing to sign up for a full dungeon.

There were once threads requesting a button that will ONLY sign players up for runs-in-progress, rather than either-or like we have now, and the idea was shut down for exactly this reason. SE WANTS to get players in for full runs.

[Sicno]

The problem I see with this, is then you get lazy players who want to spend less time in dungeon, who don't even bother to sign up unless there are runs-in-progress to join. This reduces the pool of players willing to sign up for a full dungeon.

Yeah, I thought about this too. But I think the top priority should be to have those players who got abandoned mid-run and who already got through their queue be able to finish their run so that they don't have to vote abandon and go through a queue again. Who cares if a lazy player gets to spend less time on a dungeon if it means saving up to 3 other players from being unable to complete it.

[Pells]

I don't know the reason these different leaders did not start the search. In all three cases, they certainly WANTED to get new members in, but somehow they either refused, or were never presented with the option. At any rate, the next time you queue up for a run in progress and wind up in a new instance, ask the party if they're properly searching for new members.

From what I've seen of it, the window pops open, and if you're in the middle of fighting or typing, you often click it shut again right away. All you'd see is a brief blip.