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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear View Post
    What if that account has characters on multiple servers?
    Ideally it should be 1 FC per account per server (to combat 1 person creating multiple FC's) and 1 personal house per account per server (that has the ability to be shared between all characters on the account on that server). Had they implemented that type of structure at the start it would have gone a long way for housing availability.

    There are multiple FC's on Gilgamesh that have "Alt FC" homes. As well as multiple players using Alt's to own several personal/FC homes. It's ridiculously selfish/greedy to the players that don't have a home and the players that are doing it think it's totally okay because they're not going against any set of rules. I know one person who asked one of these Multiple FC home owners (has multiple fc's using alts) if they would sell the plot and the response was "Nope, we like decorating"; it literally sits unused across from their FC (occasional target dummy practice and sporadic gardening).
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 05-03-2016 at 06:06 AM.

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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    1 personal house per account per server (that has the ability to be shared between all characters on the account).
    This would seriously help with people who have multiple characters that feel like they need a house for all of them.

    Another thing that might be worth considering is making the Workshop available for personal housing. I understand the intent behind the Workshop and Airships being FC exclusive is to encourage people to join and participate in FCs, but when we have people making alts just to have access to personal airships, and taking up the limited housing to do it, then making Workshops available in all houses might be the lesser of two evils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Another thing that might be worth considering is making the Workshop available for personal housing. I understand the intent behind the Workshop and Airships being FC exclusive is to encourage people to join and participate in FCs, but when we have people making alts just to have access to personal airships, and taking up the limited housing to do it, then making Workshops available in all houses might be the lesser of two evils.
    While I can see why Personal Home owners would want this feature I would have to disagree that we should get it. There are certain things that I feel should be tied to FC's; the whole point of the FC is group involvement which is exactly what the workshop is (or was intended to be).

    I do see where you're coming from though, but there has to be a better solution than giving personal housing all the perks of FC housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    While I can see why Personal Home owners would want this feature I would have to disagree that we should get it. There are certain things that I feel should be tied to FC's; the whole point of the FC is group involvement which is exactly what the workshop is (or was intended to be).

    I do see where you're coming from though, but there has to be a better solution than giving personal housing all the perks of FC housing.
    Revoke airship flight permissions if there are less than 5 people who have recently logged in the fc (1 week).. lol I kid. People would cry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Revoke airship flight permissions if there are less than 5 people who have recently logged in the fc (1 week).. lol I kid. People would cry.

    Rekt like for real it's funny as even now it's always me that preps all the mats for the company work shop solo then ask fc mates just to come for a few mins while i hand them all in lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    While I can see why Personal Home owners would want this feature I would have to disagree that we should get it. There are certain things that I feel should be tied to FC's; the whole point of the FC is group involvement which is exactly what the workshop is (or was intended to be).

    I do see where you're coming from though, but there has to be a better solution than giving personal housing all the perks of FC housing.
    I totally agree, in principle, but in practice, I'm seeing more and more people taking up the few houses that are available to make FC houses with their alts. I would rather keep FC perks tied to FCs, but I'd rather see more people who don't have houses get houses.

    Granted, this issue is probably not nearly as wide spread as I'm making it out to be, but I hate seeing even one person using up a plot for the sole purpose of getting those extra perks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    Ideally it should be 1 FC per account per server (to combat 1 person creating multiple FC's) and 1 personal house per account per server (that has the ability to be shared between all characters on the account).
    I could get behind this if SE would allow you to share housing with all your alts on the same server. Currently, SE wants you to play each character as a standalone character, purposely making it difficult to share resources between alts. Of course there are workarounds, but that's not the point. Since they are technically standalone characters, it is perfectly reasonable and lawful for each of them to have their own house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear View Post
    I could get behind this if SE would allow you to share housing with all your alts on the same server. Currently, SE wants you to play each character as a standalone character, purposely making it difficult to share resources between alts. Of course there are workarounds, but that's not the point. Since they are technically standalone characters, it is perfectly reasonable and lawful for each of them to have their own house.
    The honest fact is that, while some players really enjoy alt characters, SE have gone out of their way to try to make you feel really really REALLY attached to 1 specific character; where I'm sure they're hoping you do most of your activities. Which is why we can do all crafting, gathering, disciples of war/magic jobs on 1 character. This also ties into the fact that we can't send mail to alts/friend list alts directly.

    The ability to allow a single personal home to be shared between alt characters for those who enjoy that is definitely, imo, a key piece that's missing.

    They really need to incorporate some better rule structures going forward to help with the current housing issues. If that means that previous owners are grandfathered in for the time (unless they lose the house to the decay timer) then so be it but take preventative steps to stop future abuse.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 05-03-2016 at 06:02 AM.