Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[UnstablePersonality]

Screenshot or.... oh.

It happened on Siren as well.

[VanilleFang]

Mentor AST

I don't know what it is but I seem to run into a lot of mentors who do halfassed jobs. I think if I see the crown next to their name I may expect a better performance from them... It might cause me to nit pick with what they do more, I don't know, but I constantly see healers with the mentor crown standing around not doing anything outside of an occasional Cure II, or a tank only using single target rotations on large pulls. I'm probably just imagining it, and I shouldn't automatically associate mentor with amazing player, but it kind of discourages me to see the "mentors" do a poor job at their job.

[MeiUshu]

Ib.

I am more moderate in this. As you know to become a mentor you need at least one of each class to 60 and you get one crown as mentor, it doesnt mean that their main class is healing (in your example), it may well be tanking the one that they know upside down, so judging them by their crown is kind of well not really fair on them, maybe there should be a way to remove that crown when they dont want to mentor specifically when they are not in what they are comfortable in mentoring. Just me though

[VanilleFang]

I am more moderate in this. As you know to become a mentor you need at least one of each class to 60 and you get one crown as mentor, it doesnt mean that their main class is healing (in your example), it may well be tanking the one that they know upside down, so judging them by their crown is kind of well not really fair on them, maybe there should be a way to remove that crown when they dont want to mentor specifically when they are not in what they are comfortable in mentoring. Just me though

Yeah, I understand all that, it's just discouraging you know? The people who are supposed to be mentoring other people dragging their feet. But like I said, I'm probably just being nitpicky and thinking their mistakes are worse than they actually are. I'm not saying all mentors are bad, just a large number I have run into are subpar at best. Maybe I expect to much from them, which is completely possible.

[MeiUshu]

Yeah, I understand all that, it's just discouraging you know? The people who are supposed to be mentoring other people dragging their feet. But like I said, I'm probably just being nitpicky and thinking their mistakes are worse than they actually are. I'm not saying all mentors are bad, just a large number I have run into are subpar at best. Maybe I expect to much from them, which is completely possible.

I have met many mentors, undertand with teh crown, I have yet to see any of them say anything during the whole runs, and I make many of those...lets you wonder at times.

[tinythinker]

More good fortune today, had great first runs completing both Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium. Mix of vets and new players in the first, seemed nearly all vets in second. Kept up even though they were speed farming runs, helped at least some, got a few comms. I'm sure at some point I will have terrible runs in those instances but having them go well for completion was really nice.

[whythehate]

Man who cares really. I'm English and could not give a damn what someone thinks of the English player base

People getting so petty over this crap XD

Opinions are...opinions no amount of words are going to change someone's personal opinions on situations so just leave it be.

[Aelinau]

On the current subject- I've ran into all types of languages that dont play nice with others. In reality its not the language that makes that person act that way its their own stupidity. Its not E player.. J player.. F player ect... its a player in general some people just happen to run into the bad apples of the internet more than others...but EXPECTING a certain language to be bad before that person has given you a reason is stupidity in itself.


I'm sorry you have ran into the bad apples but before you generalize a whole group... sit back and think about if you were the one being generalized. You can probably see why alot of the people here are upset at what you said.

Now onto my dungeon-

I think it was yday morning get into trial roulette and Seph pops up.. ok no big deal its usually a fun fight and i dont normally screw up. We start everything going ok we get to the part where you need to get behind him to avoid dmg... "oops my bad" i was sitting on the side not the back. Ok ph2 we get to the part where he blows u back.. only.. i thought it was the pew pew part(idk why...i wanna say i was half asleep but honestly idk) and i stand back just enough where i fall.. to my death >.> yes the first time i have ever fallen on that fight and the fights just started..i felt so bad i rushed outta there with my tail between my legs.

log off and take a nap.. no more dungeons for me.

[Mysterysword]

I don't know what it is but I seem to run into a lot of mentors who do halfassed jobs. I think if I see the crown next to their name I may expect a better performance from them... It might cause me to nit pick with what they do more, I don't know, but I constantly see healers with the mentor crown standing around not doing anything outside of an occasional Cure II, or a tank only using single target rotations on large pulls. I'm probably just imagining it, and I shouldn't automatically associate mentor with amazing player, but it kind of discourages me to see the "mentors" do a poor job at their job.

I don't think it's really nitpicking to say that an AST doing (and not doing) the things I described in my post, is terrible. And that a mentor AST doing such things is even worse for it. Personally, I'm just the opposite now: Mentor = player who's going to screw up everything. To be fair, I've met mentors who never screwed up badly enough for me to notice anything, but yeah, the crown does make it even more noticeable when a player bearing it is terrible at what they're supposed to do.

It has been said countless times before and needs to be said again: The current standards for mentor status are entirely too low. I absolutely refuse to take on mentor status myself until SE comes up with a more stringent test for it.

[Erim-Nelhah]

It has been said countless times before and needs to be said again: The current standards for mentor status are entirely too low. I absolutely refuse to take on mentor status myself until SE comes up with a more stringent test for it.

The problem with this is that they can't use any entirely automated method to qualify people for Mentor status, and have it keep out bad mentors. With that in mind, here's how I think the "bad mentor" situation should be handled:

1. Make sure that Mentors can be stripped of their Mentorship, without having to ban them from the game outright. This would allow SQEX to permanently remove mentor privileges from people who abuse the status, without necessarily having to ban people who wouldn't otherwise need to be banned.
2. If players report a Mentor, GMs should then consider whether the Mentor needs to be stripped of Mentorship, in addition to any other punishment that may happen because of the report.

The only way a higher "bar" for Mentorship would work is if SQEX used a formal application process to select Mentors, which I doubt they want to do. The above at least shows how to weed out the bad mentors that do get into the system.

--Erim Nelhah