Penny Arcade T.V. - FFXIV covered

[Nuru]

I still don't understand why people are still getting their panties in a twist about sites saying negative things about the game.
It's not their fault, afterall. It's SE's fault for not communicating enough about the game in the west. If you're going to start getting mad at anyone, get mad at Square.

Id rather them work on the next patch than deal with asshole reviewers. Besides, its their opinion just as much as anyone elses. They can say what they want about it but my opinion is that they are d-bags. Done and done.

[Wolfie]

Well, thats not what its about.. They had an entire year to comment on that shit, and honestly, I thought we were over this. Almost every review mentions this stuff, and it just so happens that they are going to shit talk a game right before it gets fixed, whether its an honest review or not, if they knew the game was still getting fixed, why be a d-bag and review it before a major overhaul? Oh wait, its because they ARE d-bags!

I think people are fully justified in being d-bags over this game after the pathetic damage control SE tried to pull, and the time and effort they spent reassuring us that they learned their lesson with FFXI and that they know how to make a good MMO. A lot of us are really sore about where our $80 and time investment went. Personally, I want to see this game become at least decent and I like Yoshida's direction so far (but not the slow crawl in that direction).

Besides, FFXI/FFXIV players should definitely not be talking about not being d-bags. Being a d-bag is actively encouraged on this forum when it's time to talk about making the game more user-friendly or talk about other MMOs (especially one popular MMO made by Blizzard).

[KamikazeMan]

Funny, but it's sad to see that all three of those tips could make the game drastically better >_>

[Nuru]

I know what you are saying Wolfie, but in my context, d-bags are people that have never even touched the game and think they can review it. Not just that, they may have touched it, but they haven't experienced it. Even if they did spurt a few good comments here and there, and tried to balance out the bias, thats still d-baggy of them because they just don't have that experience, they just use their popularity and publicity to bring down a game that's considerably still in development.

It would be fair to claim that the game was shit to start with and that it is slowly making progress to being a great game, but to claim that they've had a long time to work on it and are barely implementing what should have been in the game from the beginning is only going back to square one. It would have better been said at the games release, and not right before a major overhaul.

I want this game to succeed as much as anyone would, so its only in respect that I point out that yes, some points have been made, but those points have been made over and over and over again since launch. Chocobos and Airships are released now, yes, it took long but here they are and they are here to stay. STFU about how long it took and focus on how we can make them better.

[Arcell]

I actually registered and replied to that video on their forums, one of the guys from the video replied to my bit about "yeah we're just getting chocobos and airships a year later but only because they had to revise all of the battle and crafting systems while adding in new content". His reply was:

I would argue that they should have done all that in, or before, the Beta. Not after release.

We were hard on the game, for sure, but it's difficult to take it seriously when eve Square admits they're embarrassed of it to the point of redoing the whole game:
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/28/sq...damaged-brand/

[quantumsaint]

I don't think it was meant to be a serious review. This is like watching people get upset at Onion articles.

[Isaaru]

Those trolls aren't funny.

[Arcell]

I don't think it was meant to be a serious review. This is like watching people get upset at Onion articles.

It wasn't a review and yeah some of the points weren't really serious but they defended them as you can see in my above post. They were just talking massive shit about the game and a lot of their "facts" are outdated. Sure it seems like they like to make fun of a lot of games in really unfunny way but the others seemed at least grounded in current reality.

[quantumsaint]

It wasn't a review and yeah some of the points weren't really serious but they defended them as you can see in my above post. They were just talking massive shit about the game and a lot of their "facts" are outdated. Sure it seems like they like to make fun of a lot of games in really unfunny way but the others seemed at least grounded in current reality.

What facts were outdated?

[Nuru]

I actually registered and replied to that video on their forums, one of the guys from the video replied to my bit about "yeah we're just getting chocobos and airships a year later but only because they had to revise all of the battle and crafting systems while adding in new content". His reply was:

See, that is where I am confused. SE having admitted embarrassment from the game doesn't mean you cant take the game seriously. In fact, it should be taken more seriously that its going through a drastic change, almost a complete overhaul. How is a complete overhaul of a game not serious?

What I mean is, why would they poke fun at FFXIV for the way it WAS, even if they know its going through these changes? Its like making fun of a transgender boy for acting girly, and then when she is a girl, she is constantly going to be reminded that she was a boy. People like that just need to be more open-minded.