Patch 3.3 is called Revenge of the Horde...

[Kaurie]

A joke loses it's title when the initial throw wasn't as funny as the audacity behind it.

What's funny are all the replies from angry WoW subscribers and former subscribers.

To be honest, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. That said, I found it to be quite funny - and that it made perfect sense as The Horde is a fairly iconic thing from Warcraft which is the leading game in the genre.

I also saw those replies. I thought a lot of them were funny. The salty ones were not quite so much. I really liked the one from League =)

[Ranulf]

To be honest, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. That said, I found it to be quite funny - and that it made perfect sense as The Horde is a fairly iconic thing from Warcraft which is the leading game in the genre.

Yes, Horde is a term that WoW uses, but it's a regular term meaning a group of people.

At least to me, it came off like WoW was saying, "You're using our word in your title?"

[Kaurie]

Yes, Horde is a term that WoW uses, but it's a regular term meaning a group of people.

At least to me, it came off like WoW was saying, "You're using our word in your title?"

That was precisely it, I'm sorry that you don't see humour in this - many people did though.

[Ranulf]

That was precisely it, I'm sorry that you don't see humour in this - many people did though.

I didn't find it funny because XIV is so much better than WoW, lol.

[SpookyGhost]

I didn't find it funny because XIV is so much better than WoW, lol.

Now that's a good joke.

[DWolfwood]

I didn't find it funny because XIV is so much better than WoW, lol.

I think there's still a few good ideas we can pull from WoW. I'd like to see racial mounts for starters.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I think there's still a few good ideas we can pull from WoW. I'd like to see racial mounts for starters.

You mean the mounts that everyone is going to demand to be made usable by everyone like the bunny ears?

[KaijinRhada]

You mean the mounts that everyone is going to demand to be made usable by everyone like the bunny ears?

Granted in WoW you can get other racial mounts within your faction after grinding to exalted (highest rep level) with said race, so if the whole idea were to be used, it's kind of already there.

[Preypacer]

You mean the mounts that everyone is going to demand to be made usable by everyone like the bunny ears?

And don't forget flying. Because apparently, every mount in FFXIV is destined to become a flying mount as well. Yoshi-P has given up on taking XIV's world or lore at all seriously, or trying preserve it as a unique kind of experience in the genre. He's almost literally using WoW as his blueprint at this point. It shows more and more with every new update they release, or discuss.

"WoW did this, so XIV must do this... WoW does that, so XIV must do that".

You know, Yoshi-P, FFXI was heavily inspired by EQ1. The difference is, once they had the core game established, SE took FFXI off in its own direction, and it became a very unique, self-contained experience in the genre, which earned a strong and very loyal following - at least until they lost their minds, jumped the shark, and decided undermining ~8 years of world, story and game building with Abyssea was the right course of action, at which point it began bleeding players who no longer recognized the MMO they'd loved for so long.

Blizzard took the basic ideas of established MMOs, then put their own twist on them to create a new experience no one had experienced before. Yes it was more streamlined and accessible - it was very much a Blizzard game. Point is, it stood on its own within the genre (not even discussing numbers here, just in terms of its design philosophies, etc)

With XIV:ARR, you got the "basing the foundation off of established, successful MMOs" phase right. Problem is, you forgot the part where you stop "emulating" and start making the game its own unique, self-contained experience. You're still stuck in the "emulate other successful MMOs" bit, and are doing so in a variety of ways, on various levels.

While many other MMO devs have finally woken up to the fact that you don't have to copy WoW to be good, or even successful (as long as expectations of success are tempered with a grip on reality), and are starting to try new things, and push the genre in different directions....Yoshi-P is clinging desperately to the idea that trying to emulate WoW is the best way to go. FFXIV:ARR was born out of many of WoW's design ideas/concepts, but Yoshi-P never cut the umbilical cord.

Saying this may not rest well with certain people, but it's my honest opinion. I've been thinking for a while now that XIV might need to get someone new in the Director's seat. Someone with more vision, more imagination, and less insistence on "playing it safe" for fear of "stressing people out". He's a damn hard worker, and has poured a lot into this game, I take none of that away from him. I just think we may have seen the limit of what he is able to bring to FFXIV creatively. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am.

[Kaurie]

I didn't find it funny because XIV is so much better than WoW, lol.

While I personally disagree on this, I also feel this has no bearing on the joke. *shrug*

Anyway, going back to playing wow, ttyl.