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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    In most fights you would go MNK/NIN for DPS, what reason other than DPS unless you don't have a DRK would you pick a MNK for? Mantra? If I'm not wrong the reason for the time it took to beat A8S was more due to mechanics and DPS check than what would be saved with the increased healing by mantra. There's a reason SE buffed MNKs DPS and not utility for this tier of raiding.
    If you pick MNK is for defensive reasons, You don't pick a MNK when you are searching the highest Raid DPS. Miunih (Current BLM of Elysium) talks about why they got a Monk in party during progress here. It's pretty obvious that MNK is really strong when you need defensive CDs like Mantra.
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 05-01-2016 at 01:01 AM.

  2. #42
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    Krindor's Avatar
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    U'tyada Tia
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    If you pick MNK is for defensive reasons, You don't pick a MNK when you are searching the highest Raid DPS. Miunih (Current BLM of Elysium) talks about why they got a Monk in party during progress here. It's pretty obvious that MNK is really strong when you need defensive CDs like Mantra.
    For A7S they changed tank to PLD for survivability, they then changed from DRG to MNK for DK. Obviously if you don't have a DRK the MNK is useful. As for A8S there shouldn't be any reason they should've gone with a MNK over DRG.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    For A7S they changed tank to PLD for survivability, they then changed from DRG to MNK for DK. Obviously if you don't have a DRK the MNK is useful. As for A8S there shouldn't be any reason they should've gone with a MNK over DRG.
    They didn't change to PLD for surv, just they changed to MNK because they needed a bit more health, and with Mantra you can get it. You dont need PLD for A7S.
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 05-01-2016 at 03:43 AM.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    They didn't change to PLD for surv, just they changed to MNK because they needed a bit more health, and with Mantra you can get it. You dont need PLD for A7S.
    Divine Veil is what PLD gives for survivability to the team, then we also have the tank buster being physical so the paladin is more suited than DRK. The 3 things that kill even if mechanics are done correctly is, tank buster, sizzlespark, sizzlebeam. The only situation were mantra would be useful is during 2 stack sizzlesparks, same with divine veil, divine veil is the better option but as it got a long cooldown mantra can be used in between.

    Also to be noted is that the MNK is really good in A7S as it's is probably going to be catered towards and not losing GL at any time in the fight is going to make MNK the top DPS and probably surpass the raid DPS given by running NIN/DRG instead.
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    Last edited by Krindor; 05-01-2016 at 04:10 AM.

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    Eonkhui Malaguld
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    Tonberry
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    Also Layla said in an interview if they had taken a Paladin in A8S they would have cleared it earlier.
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