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  1. #41
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    You don't have to get all content done the second it comes out.
    This is true, and is fine, but proper scheduling goes a long way to make the game SEEM like there is more to do than with bad scheduling. How many people have you seen that say "I don't have anything to do" despite having jobs at ~30? Having jobs release separately keeps the hype going, and makes patches feel more exciting. I know when the expansion released I was only excited about DRK and that completely overshadowed the other two, perhaps if we were getting AST or MCH in 3.3 I would have paid more attention.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    This is true, and is fine, but proper scheduling goes a long way to make the game SEEM like there is more to do than with bad scheduling. How many people have you seen that say "I don't have anything to do" despite having jobs at ~30?
    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    You don't have to get all content done the second it comes out. Many people don't and the release is nice all at ones because then it fits all player types..
    Pacing doesn't have so much to do with it as much as interest. I can't be bothered to level my ninja, WHM or AST because the process of doing so is the same as I have been since I began playing in 2.1; roulette, FATEs and dungeons. Knowing ninja only gets oGCD abilties and not much mechanical changes to their rotation is even less of an incentive for me to get those abilities

    Along that, how long do you think the content released in 3.1 actually lasted before it was delegated to repetition/weekly clear, something that you didn;t want to keep doing, but something you just did daily?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I know when the expansion released I was only excited about DRK and that completely overshadowed the other two, perhaps if we were getting AST or MCH in 3.3 I would have paid more attention.
    The end product is more important than anything else. If we got MCH/AST as is in 3.3, it'd just feel like MCH wasn't well worth the wait with so many parallels drawn to BRD (and this is also true to an extent in regards to 3.1, especially with the delayed release). When we got the release of ninja, their ability and toolkit was diverse from what you;d see from DRG and MNK at the time, even if they were arguably op'd (and numerical values can always be adjusted). Not the case when you look at something like BRD and MCH both gaining a skill that affects their gameplay in the same manner, or if we were to make another example, taking dark arts out of DRK and it'd essentially be paladin-but-magic.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 04-29-2016 at 12:13 AM.
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  3. #43
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    Deifact Kinspawn
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    I'd much rather have one really interesting and unique job with creative mechanics than 3 jobs that are basically copy/pasta of existing jobs...
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  4. #44
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    The DF outside of PVP does not make this differentiation and neither do most players.

    It is 3 Tanks, 3 Healers, and 7 DPS.

    You do not isolate a whole category of players unless you want the DF queues to suffer. Besides, it is unfair for healer and tank players if all the new classes are always DPS classes, same effect on the reverse, but to a lesser degree because everyone and their dog plays DPS.
    DF does try to fill parties with dps diversity though.
    And SE could add a third party type, like Medium Party that is 1 tank, 1 heal, 4 dps, with DF doing its best to fill up the party with diversity in mind, and use that format for 4.0 dungeons and normal mode trials. And have a Light Party option for premades that want to go outside the regular mold. Full Party still being used for Extreme mode trials and raid (though for these, they should move to 1 tank, 2 heal, 5 dps).
    Further expanding on the idea of a new party type, they should also allow for Light and Medium party alliances that with some minor retuning of LotA/ST/WoD and VA/??/?? could allow for harder versions of those with minimal amount of work.

    Also, I didn't say that three healers and three tanks should be the be all and end all of healing and tanking. That's just for 4.0 that I feel we don't need more.
    They could go tank+dps, dps+dps, heal+dps, or any other combination of the three roles split over two jobs.

    I think they once said something about each new job being about one years worth of work to create (meaning loads of overtime to add 3 new jobs for 3.0 and nin during the 2.x series)... With it looking like 1.5-2 years from HW release to 4.0, more than two jobs is not going to happen this time. With one likely being SAM, and the other being RDM or BLU.
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    Last edited by Nekodar; 04-29-2016 at 05:48 AM.

  5. #45
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    Releasing one job at a time tells everyone who is all levelled up to only play that one class now.
    Making the queues terrible.
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  6. #46
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    will nvr be dps n dps queues can be quite long already for dungeons
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  7. #47
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    Mateus
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    I still think that SE should release 3 jobs per expansion. Tank, DPS, and Healer. That way everyone gets something that they enjoy and no one is left out. Obviously, SE can do it, as we saw with Heavensward, although, this, among other things, makes me wonder how much we FFXIV subscribers are getting shafted due to the development of FFXV, Kingdom Hearts 3, and the new FFVII.

    Seems to me that if SE weren't so hard at work on those three major titles that we could have more of what we want, but instead our dev team gets the shaft and we get the best that they can do for us, which is still greatly appreciated. I just wish they had a bit more support and weren't stretched so thin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    Oh boy, I can't wait for the update where Ramuh drops out of the sky like "sup dawg, we gon fight up in dis tree to see who da most swoll in da woods".
    "Be excellent to each other."

  8. #48
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    Aaliyah Rose
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I would like to see:
    Beastmaster = Tank
    Samurai = DPS
    Time Mage = Healer
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaliyahrose View Post
    I would like to see:
    Beastmaster = Tank
    Samurai = DPS
    Time Mage = Healer
    no no no no.. make beastmaster dps n have puppeteer as tank can summon a Calcabrina to take damage lol
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