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  1. #21
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    First of all, change their names into Firaga, Thundaga etc, then we can talk!

    Second of all, screw actions! 4 chain comboses would kill them AoE evading! "MUST HIT GCD"
    Traits seems to be reasonable choice.
    Maybe some kind of one ultimate so we could have such.
    (Ok, i spoke about DRK, Living Dead is not cool at all ;__; lvl 70 ultimate must be and must be better)
    Man what I would give for something like Minus Strike for those free 22k worth of damage per hit. Would synergize well with LD. But knowing this dev team they would just either make it a 300 Pot Spirits within, give it an absurd CD and of course assign an awful potency to it.
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    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Yuni Captain
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    But knowing this dev team they would just either make it a 300 Pot Spirits within, give it an absurd CD and of course assign an awful potency to it.
    Or just shorten cooldown by 30 sec... .___.
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  3. #23
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    deusdormit's Avatar
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    Ether Prince
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    Machinist Lv 69
    Actually it is fire, fira, firega. Just outside of Japan they thought people new to final fantasy wouldn't understand it so they changed it to fire 1-4 to be more clear
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  4. #24
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Fire, Fira, Firaga if we would like to make it so detailed. Since we talk about translation problem. Translation of Fire -ga was translated into Firaga.

    m8. FF I is my bible. You won't beat me here. Don't even try sonny. Papa remembers those times.

    While it is true that outside of japan little people would understand stuff like -ra and -ga, they don't really have to lol.
    A lot of games have sick spell names you just need to get used to.
    Besides, iirc, only some parts of FF had numerical names.
    FF I, VII for sure had -ra -ga stuff.

    So i quess it's exactly as you said.
    Too many people would have problems with that.
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  5. #25
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    LilLemay's Avatar
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    Emily Hunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    Fire, Fira, Firaga if we would like to make it so detailed. Since we talk about translation problem. Translation of Fire -ga was translated into Firaga.

    m8. FF I is my bible. You won't beat me here. Don't even try sonny. Papa remembers those times.

    While it is true that outside of japan little people would understand stuff like -ra and -ga, they don't really have to lol.
    A lot of games have sick spell names you just need to get used to.
    Besides, iirc, only some parts of FF had numerical names.
    FF I, VII for sure had -ra -ga stuff.

    So i quess it's exactly as you said.
    Too many people would have problems with that.
    Didn't it go past Firaga into Firaganda or something like that? or am I just losing my mind
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Something I've thought about DRK would be an enhanced Sole Survivor.
    If marked target dies under the effect of Sole Survivor, Walking Dead status is lifted.

    Note it's not Living Dead, but Walking Dead. Meaning you'd have to actually be under the need for a full HP recovery for this to take effect. Making it not too overpowered, but more importantly bringing DRK into a realistic balance with the other tanks as they are now.
    If a PLD or WAR has the need to use Hallowed Ground or Holmgang, they both have options to recover HP during the time they're active. DRK however, has no way to remove it's own death sentence and is 100% reliant on a healer.
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  7. #27
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Something I've thought about DRK would be an enhanced Sole Survivor.
    If marked target dies under the effect of Sole Survivor, Walking Dead status is lifted.

    Note it's not Living Dead, but Walking Dead. Meaning you'd have to actually be under the need for a full HP recovery for this to take effect. Making it not too overpowered, but more importantly bringing DRK into a realistic balance with the other tanks as they are now.
    If a PLD or WAR has the need to use Hallowed Ground or Holmgang, they both have options to recover HP during the time they're active. DRK however, has no way to remove it's own death sentence and is 100% reliant on a healer.
    Just to check, are you are are you not able to die during Walking Dead, prior to its duration end? Because if you can't, you've now lost whatever remaining duration you have on being able to hang out at 1 hp when that Sole Survivor removes Walking Dead. That can as easily be a nerf as a buff.

    What I'd personally like to see is for Living Dead to simply be based on a % of base HP, or quite simply allow negative HP and simply require positive hp at the end of the duration to survive. Short of a Minus Strike, there's nothing to balance out the increased healing requirement for higher vitality otherwise. The penalty increases with item level. That should not be the case.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 04-30-2016 at 01:41 AM.

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    Aaliyahrose's Avatar
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    Aaliyah Rose
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Just to check, are you are are you not able to die during Walking Dead, prior to its duration end? Because if you can't, you've now lost whatever remaining duration you have on being able to hang out at 1 hp when that Sole Survivor removes Walking Dead. That can as easily be a nerf as a buff.
    Living Dead is Cancelled when you drop to 0 HP.
    Walking Dead will stay active, and are unable to die for the duration. You must be healed for 100% of your HP in order for the affect to wear off. You do not need to be healed to full HP, but you must be healed for however many Points of HP you had lost.
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  9. #29
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    Draelon Eldad
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    Thaumaturge Lv 91
    Adding more abilities to jobs/classes are normal in MMORPgs, i can see how this effects Playstation players the most. Eventually they will do what games like WoW has done in the past and remove abilities that are less useful or intregrate them somehow aka traits
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  10. #30
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilLemay View Post
    Didn't it go past Firaga into Firaganda or something like that? or am I just losing my mind
    The next level of "level 3 fire" i found in those parts i played are Firaja (FF tactics: War of the Lions) and Firasa in FF XIII-2.
    While Firaja definietely exist in tactics, i can't seem to find -sa spells on any wiki. Maybe i am mistaken, but i can cut my hand, that there were -sa spells on Serah Ravager abilities list.
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