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  1. #91
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    zuzu-bq's Avatar
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    The whole glorified DPS thing got super solid because of Gordias' high dps check and how easy one healer can deal most of the healing output with few help.
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  2. #92
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    Snow Dreams
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    is just to maximize potential of healers. but by all mean, sch can solo heal pretty decently as well. I have solo healed sep ex. and part of M1S (cuz whm died and i didn't have swift). there is planning involved, consider how much atherflow u need to save up to use certain skill. You also have to understand that sch it not "as" strong in group healing, but their strength is in damage mitigation(a support type healer).
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  3. #93
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    Amai Couteau
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Huh? No strategy, no planning, can't salvage stuff..? The only reason SCHs gets to dps harder than the main healer is because of strategy AND planning. Knowing when something went wrong and shit is about to go down is the sch life. Be scared when your sch starts healing outside of the obligatory shields/mitigation, because that means something didn't go according to plan and someone fucked up.
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  4. #94
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    Limwris Abriel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Well, I love my job as Scholar o.o

    Today trial roulette gave me Ravana. Other healer (white mage) was knocked off the arena and I had to soloing, but success.

    Anyway, I do not know about raid of 8 people. I never did or will do that.
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  5. #95
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    Miyha Manaya
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    Behemoth
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    Based on the first post and one of OP's posts on the first page, all I have to say is this:
    I would HAAAAATE to have OP as my co-healer. :| Or any of the SCHs they've "surveyed".

    And I though AST had earned a reputation for attracting the most bads of the three healers...
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  6. #96
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    SCH was never designed to be a pure healer in the first place, but a complimentary counterpart to the (at the time) only Healer in the game. WHM already had the raw, reactionary-type pure healer role covered so SCH went in a different direction with a toolkit designed to cover what WHM couldn't do, and vice-versa. The extent of the DPS element you see with the Job is obviously a situation SE didn't account for (neither is one they can really do anything about at this point), yet ironically it adds extra to the role. Funny that, one of the best Jobs in the game and it came about from what SE has since conceded as being a failed experiment.
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  7. #97
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    SCH was never designed to be a pure healer in the first place, but a complimentary counterpart to the (at the time) only Healer in the game. WHM already had the raw, reactionary-type pure healer role covered so SCH went in a different direction with a toolkit designed to cover what WHM couldn't do, and vice-versa. The extent of the DPS element you see with the Job is obviously a situation SE didn't account for (neither is one they can really do anything about at this point), yet ironically it adds extra to the role. Funny that, one of the best Jobs in the game and it came about from what SE has since conceded as being a failed experiment.
    Cloud Strife was also a "failed experiment".

    I know, not quite the same thing, but it still makes me question SE definition of failure and success.
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  8. #98
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I know, not quite the same thing, but it still makes me question SE definition of failure and success.
    You're better off questioning whether it's actually a Square-Enix statement or someone pretending to be some Square-Enix representative and making their own statements as if it's Square-Enix's
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  9. #99
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    You're better off questioning whether it's actually a Square-Enix statement or someone pretending to be some Square-Enix representative and making their own statements as if it's Square-Enix's
    True. Very true. But how many times between XI and XIV has SE come out and said, "Yeah, our bad". Not necessarily in those words, but certain patch updates and upgrades are definitely a testament to that. I started after the 3.1 patch and I have no idea how some of the frustrations were before, but I read about them here.

    When I saw the comment about SCH, I immediately wondered what is wrong with it. But I started this game with SCH as is, not as it was, or someone's perception of the job as so. Basically, I fail to see that the job has become something other than what SE intended. If anything, it started out indifferent, and they fixed it. Again going back to our perception vs theirs
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  10. #100
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    James Dynamite
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    this topic is rather silly. If they made the healing requirements higher scholar would just suddenly become a, and I quote, "real healer"? Fight designs DON'T dictate your role and core fundamentals of a job.

    As others have mentioned its designed to dps since it branches off a dps class first (with heals as a secondary). Yes its labeled as a healer, but its a hybrid job that isn't designed to be just a pure healer. If some how the meta changed or the next expansion came in where scholar was the worst healer to bring in raids, I'm fairly confident what other off healer would come would still be dpsing regardless. Yes its branded/joked as a "second rate dps" because its toolset and mp sustain is really strong, but at the end of the day

    you are still healing.


    though since you certainly aren't raiding as a scholar and/or show that you have proper knowledge of how scholars actually work based on your post, I probably shouldn't have engaged in this.
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    Last edited by Gameplayzero; 04-29-2016 at 01:53 PM.

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