Concerned with lack of healers in the top ranked?

[TetsuyaHikari]

A BLM could do 50k worth of damage and still do a whole lot for the team than a DRG with 130k damage I'm not sure where you're getting at with this.

So you'd rather have a player that only helps by being situational instead of someone that's more consistent with damage? If that BLM manages to kill an enemy that everyone else had to work towards hurting, it's not going to really mean as much as a BLM that contributes as well in order to kill them. In other words, it's better for the BLM to be pushing good numbers than having our other DPS work twice as hard to pick up his slack.

If this was Savage content, you wouldn't look to the BLM and say "well, you're behind by 200 DPS in the beginning, but it's okay because you killed the enemy, then follow up with "alright, NIN, you have to do 200 more DPS to make up for our BLM's damage". That's just not right. You'd expect everyone to meet a certain potential and pull their own weight, so I'm not entirely sure how you can justify it being okay for a PLD to be doing more DPS than a BLM in The Feast, just because the BLM gets a kill, lol. You're not looking at the big picture here.

If a DRG is not doing over 130K they are shit.

This is true, lol. I just always say 100k for an easier understanding since I'm not entirely familiar with exactly how much they should be pushing in there. I've seen a couple usually pushing 150k and one in particular usually pushing about 175k, but he's in the top 10 on Primal right now.

I was #11th place (around 1025 score) yesterday and then in one night dropped off the top 100.

Don't worry. If it makes you feel any better, I was ranked #9 on the second day the season began, then dropped +60 ranks on the third day, the most out of any player that day. A day later, I did a little better, but on the next day, I wasn't even in the top 100 any more. At that point, I seriously just considered quitting right then and there since things had been going so badly lately.

I somehow managed to claw my way out though and bump up to #71 or so, then in the top 50 and I've been hovering around there lately because I reached gold a couple of nights ago, but it didn't even last a day. I lost it on the next day due to RNG matchmaking again (go figure), but that seems to be the case so far. I'll enter a new tier, then lose it, then have to get it back, lol. It happened when I first reached silver too.

So, I'm trying to work back up to my qualifier again at the moment (only about 30 points away now). Point is, just keep at it. As much as it sucks now, it can't stay this way forever. Much like everyone's good luck in matchmaking always runs out at some point. After I got my 14 loss streak on the third day, I realized something.

If you lose 100 points or so, just stop. Don't bother trying to fight RNG. You'll just keep losing. It's a gambler's fallacy trap.

You think to yourself "I've been stuck with the same bad DPS 3 times in a row. They can't possibly give him to me again", so you queue up again thinking things will be different. 'Lo and behold, he's on your team again and you lose once more, lol. If it's not something like that, they will simply replace one bad player with another (like finally getting rid of the bad DPS for a bad healer or vice versa).

As a tank myself though, I want to apologize on behalf of the other tank that mistreated you. It was completely unprofessional and unjustified. I've fought you on the battlefield a few times and have been your ally before, so I know your weaknesses, but I also know your strengths as well. You're one of the better healers we have around Primal right now, so I hope you stick with it.

Good luck out there in any case.

[Kyani]

So you'd rather have a player that only helps by being situational instead of someone that's more consistent with damage? If that BLM manages to kill an enemy that everyone else had to work towards hurting, it's not going to really mean as much as a BLM that contributes as well in order to kill them. In other words, it's better for the BLM to be pushing good numbers than having our other DPS work twice as hard to pick up his slack.

If this was Savage content, you wouldn't look to the BLM and say "well, you're behind by 200 DPS in the beginning, but it's okay because you killed the enemy, then follow up with "alright, NIN, you have to do 200 more DPS to make up for our BLM's damage". That's just not right. You'd expect everyone to meet a certain potential and pull their own weight, so I'm not entirely sure how you can justify it being okay for a PLD to be doing more DPS than a BLM in The Feast, just because the BLM gets a kill, lol. You're not looking at the big picture here.

The issue is that there are certain players who are very good at producing damage, but they're doing it by simply attacking the most available target, rather than coordinating on to fleeing or vulnerable ones. Damage doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't result in a kill. BLMs in particular look awful by this metric because they can have 3-4k nukes erased by LoS while still contributing fully to burst damage.

If you played Seal Rock a lot, it boils down to SMN damage theory - even though SMN ruled the damage charts, good BLMs did way more effective damage. Tridisaster -> Bane gets the numbers, but Tridisaster -> Fester gets the kills.

[TetsuyaHikari]

The issue is that there are certain players who are very good at producing damage, but they're doing it by simply attacking the most available target, rather than coordinating on to fleeing or vulnerable ones. Damage doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't result in a kill. BLMs in particular look awful by this metric because they can have 3-4k nukes erased by LoS while still contributing fully to burst damage.

If you played Seal Rock a lot, it boils down to SMN damage theory - even though SMN ruled the damage charts, good BLMs did way more effective damage. Tridisaster -> Bane gets the numbers, but Tridisaster -> Fester gets the kills.

Yeah, but by that same logic, you'd also facepalm if you saw SMNs in your party not doing much damage either since they were OP as hell there, lol. If they get a kill, great, but I'd take someone who's pushing out consistent damage on all of the party members over someone getting a kill every now and then any day of the week. I feel the same way about BLMs in The Feast right now.

They could get a kill or two, but it would be better if they contributed to the overall damage instead and helped the team as a whole since higher numbers will produce better results. It's very rare that you see DPS on your team pushing under 100k and actually winning the match. If anything, it's the guys that are breaking 100 or 150k by damaging so many targets over the course of the match and that's what helps you get the kills you really need, when you need them.

If you manage to nuke a DPS while he's almost dead and kill him, good for you. We got some medals. That's a good start, but you've got a long way to go if that's all you're good for. We need someone to keep applying pressure and nuking all of them repeatedly to give us consistent damage instead of having a DPS which is relying heavily on their other DPS to carry them because this BLM's rotation is terrible.

He may look like a good player for getting the kill for the team, but the truth of the matter is, he's simply getting the rewards without the effort involved. I'd never feel comfortable partying up with a BLM that's getting beat in terms of damage by a PLD, no matter how many kills they get. That's just disgusting because it really makes it look like the other DPS is carrying the BLM. I'd rather have two DPS which can push out consistent numbers and get the kills they deserve.

[Destroyer]

some of the best players, the best healers, are middle ranked.

[xxczx]

lol, you've gone as far to check my rank. Let's see.....

Yesterday you was rank 89, I was 25. Your XIVPvP profile is even more laughable.

So you'd rather have a player that only helps by being situational instead of someone that's more consistent with damage? If that BLM manages to kill an enemy that everyone else had to work towards hurting, it's not going to really mean as much as a BLM that contributes as well in order to kill them. In other words, it's better for the BLM to be pushing good numbers than having our other DPS work twice as hard to pick up his slack.

This is exactly what BLMs are, situational. They CC, they peel, they set up their burst to time it exactly right when the healer is pressured. They could do 50k worth of damage in one match, with 10k being from buffer damage but 40k being from actual damage that gets kills.

If this was Savage content

This is the mindset people have when coming into PvP and needs to stop. You can get the best PvErs with world/server firsts into PvP but they do completely shit which happens ALL the time on Chaos because their mindset is PvE numbers not PvP.

You are thinking too much on overall damage which means nothing when it comes to the actual match. Damage healed is damage wasted, yes it contributes to healer resources but if you just whacked out your entire burst on a target (lets say around 20k for melee) that just gets healed up and a BLM comes over, sleeps your healer and kills you, that's around 10k damage.

I'm not saying people who do low damage is a good thing but if you look at the best BLM on Mana who has Diamond and his damage numbers, would you call him shit? No, you wouldn't.

Now please continue to meld materia onto your gear and think it actually works in PvP.

Oh and hey, damage numbers is everything, right?