The entire first blood.

[LineageRazor]

Well, do bear in mind that the fates of Ratotskr's and Nidhogg's eyes differ. Niddy's eyes are used intact, but Ratotskr's eyes were actually eaten by Thordan and his knights. Whether even this is enough to truly kill a dragon is unclear, but if Ratotskr could be brought back, none of the first brood dragons seem to believe so. Both Hraesvalgr and Nidhogg seem to believe that she's dead for good. Midgardsormr hasn't said anything one way or another on the topic, and he'd probably know best.

At any rate, I think it unlikely that Ratotskr will be making any kind of return, though it'd be an interesting plot twist if it turned out that all people of Ishgard could band together to summon her, or something.

On the topic of dragon asexual reproduction, it makes me curious as to why dragons even HAVE genders. Is there any biological difference between a male dragon and a female dragon? Do they refer to each other by gender, or is that purely a human convenience to avoid using the less-than-polite "it" and "its"?

[WyrahFhurrst]

At any rate, I think it unlikely that Ratotskr will be making any kind of return, though it'd be an interesting plot twist if it turned out that all people of Ishgard could band together to summon her, or something.

That could be close to the conclusion of the Heavensward storyline, them bringing her back by some method to draw out all of the dragon blood in their systems, cleansing the Ishgardians and making a peace with the dragons.

On the topic of dragon asexual reproduction, it makes me curious as to why dragons even HAVE genders. Is there any biological difference between a male dragon and a female dragon? Do they refer to each other by gender, or is that purely a human convenience to avoid using the less-than-polite "it" and "its"?

They may not be sexual genders, but gender identities, whereby the dragons choose a gender they feel more closely related to, rather than a gender dictated by birth.

[StarDrake]

BONUS INFORMATION
Dragons reproduce asexually, which explains Midgardsormr being a single father.
Dragon mates are lifelong spiritual connections, not reproductive ones, which makes Bahamut/Tiamat a little easier to understand.

Whoa whoa whoa. I thought I was really thorough on the dragon stuff but I somehow missed this entirely. Where does it come up? It'd explain some things, but I thought I'd caught every nugget of info about dragons there was to get.

Also, as far as The Mystery Dragons go, I do suspect they'll be namedropped at least - if not in-game, then in the lorebook. It's also the safest bet in the universe to say that one of them will be Shinryu.

After Heavensward, we probably will be leaving a lot of Dragon Stuff behind us for a little while, though. 4.x is probably going to feature the Garleans heavily.

[Quor]

Well, do bear in mind that the fates of Ratotskr's and Nidhogg's eyes differ. Niddy's eyes are used intact, but Ratotskr's eyes were actually eaten by Thordan and his knights. Whether even this is enough to truly kill a dragon is unclear, but if Ratotskr could be brought back, none of the first brood dragons seem to believe so. Both Hraesvalgr and Nidhogg seem to believe that she's dead for good. Midgardsormr hasn't said anything one way or another on the topic, and he'd probably know best.

At any rate, I think it unlikely that Ratotskr will be making any kind of return, though it'd be an interesting plot twist if it turned out that all people of Ishgard could band together to summon her, or something.

I think, prior to Ratatoskr being killed, no First Brood had died. I'm not sure if anyone could call it one way or the other. Ultimately, I think it would be determined by what works for The Plot though.

Magic and all that. They don't gotta explain nothing to nobody.

[myahele]

I think, prior to Ratatoskr being killed, no First Brood had died. I'm not sure if anyone could call it one way or the other. Ultimately, I think it would be determined by what works for The Plot though.

Actually, the original Bahamut was killed by the Allagans and brought back as a Primal version of himself by Tiamat and their brood.

[appledoze]

What I want to know is where Midgardsormr came from. It's implied that he's from space since they say he arrived at "this star", which usually means the planet. And I want to know more about his connection with Hydaelyn.

[Dualblade]

On the topic of dragon asexual reproduction, it makes me curious as to why dragons even HAVE genders. Is there any biological difference between a male dragon and a female dragon? Do they refer to each other by gender, or is that purely a human convenience to avoid using the less-than-polite "it" and "its"?

Its probably something they picked up from interactions with other races that have genders.

[Zohar_Lahar]

I have thought on Ratatoskr, and how one possible outcome of Ishgard is them all reconstituting the great wyrm. Obviously, having 90% of all Ishgard NPCs disappear like that can't happen in an MMORPG like this game, so that means any kind of Xenogears-like plot impossible.

As for the Azure Dragoon, during the level 50 battle, at one point you see a generic dragoon appear in the place of your character right before Estinien disappeared, and Ser Alberic thought it was Haldrath. This is of course inconsistent with Haldrath's later depiction in the Echo version (where he had silver drachen armor). I generally assume that player DRG are Azure Dragoons affiliated with Midgardsormr, while Estinien is associated with Nidhogg (and by extension, Nael with Bahamut).


Lastly, one of the Domans mentioned that there was a land of dragons in Othard, so it seems a given that one of of the other unnamed great wyrms lives there. I'm thinking its the yellow one with the narwhal-like tusks, he might be called Oryu/Huang Long.

[Morningstar1337]

What I want to know is where Midgardsormr came from. It's implied that he's from space since they say he arrived at "this star", which usually means the planet. And I want to know more about his connection with Hydaelyn.

For that, While I do want something like this to happen and do think that its possible (Allag already sets a precedent for Sci-Fi elements). I think its rather unlikley.

Which is why I have to ask any and all people that red A Song of Ice and Fire or watched Game of Thrones if they've read/heard any references to stars and if so in which context.

[myahele]

I seem to recall the astrologian saw the "dragon star" glow and/or become crimson for a short period of time. Such an event means that a great wyrm roars and many believed (at that time) that it meant the resurrection of Midgardsormr.

Assuming that there are multiple planets and solar systems + space dragon theory, then perhaps the dragon star being referenced might be where Midgardsormr and his 1st brood originated from?