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    KrenianKandos's Avatar
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    Krenian Kandos
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    If he had grit up, mobs hitting harder in the area wouldn't really matter due to a full time -20% mitigation with similar defense cd rotations as PLD at this point. Alternatively PLD has to go through the same thing with no tank stance while DRK has it's passive -20%. Making DRK arguably better than PLD in mitigation at this particular point.

    His gear is fine, assuming the truth was told. He'd be missing like 10-15 defense over all if he has full Calvary set in comparison to the gear drops from the sunken temple itself.
    I'd be curious to compare shield blocks versus the passive -20% at that level. Say on an average, you block around 20% damage. Would that not, in essence, be equal? You're almost constantly blocking stuff, depending on type of shield you have as a PLD. So in that regard, I would think it would be awfully close and when PLD hits 40, that's when they become the better constant damage mitigator...

    Now that I'm thinking about it, Qarn is the next one after Brayflox, isn't it? So yeah, the gear would be fine, in that regard....Hm. It would be lower but you could simply mitigate that with someone that pays attention to the damage influx.

    Points noted. Guess the healer just dropped the ball on that one =)
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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KrenianKandos View Post
    I'd be curious to compare shield blocks versus the passive -20% at that level. Say on an average, you block around 20% damage. Would that not, in essence, be equal? You're almost constantly blocking stuff, depending on type of shield you have as a PLD. So in that regard, I would think it would be awfully close and when PLD hits 40, that's when they become the better constant damage mitigator...
    No, because shield does not always block and does not proct even 50% of the time. Grit is -20% damage taken to everything and will always work expect if the damage is mechanic damage (like falling to your death in titan, hitting a flame wall in coils, hitting enrage on bosses ect.). When they (PLD) hit 40, then yes they are arguably the better mitigation tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    I didn't have full calvary. I had HQ Toadskin pants that are for tanks because I never got calvary pants to drop
    Then the defense missing would have been around 15-20 roughly. Which can make a difference, but in the situation you were in, single group pulling from the sounds of it, it's not that big of a deal.
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    Last edited by Seku; 04-23-2016 at 02:45 AM.

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    Krissey Cakes
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    No, because shield does not always block and does not proct even 50% of the time. Grit is -20% damage taken to everything and will always work expect if the damage is mechanic damage (like falling to your death in titan, hitting a flame wall in coils, hitting enrage on bosses ect.). When they (PLD) hit 40, then yes they are arguably the better mitigation tank.


    Then the defense missing would have been around 15-20 roughly. Which can make a difference, but in the situation you were in, single group pulling from the sounds of it, it's not that big of a deal.
    I tell you what I think it is. I think it's because I'm used to WATCHING a Paladin. I was leveling a healer from 30-52 with the same Paladin who was really good...and I saw how their HP just didn't budge. So then I go in as a DRK and my HP just gets chunked out. So watching this paladin that just doesn't take hits, really, barely every had any panic moments for pop all CD's mega-heal this guy...and then i get on my DRK and I just see me go from 100 - 50% in two hits I'm like "Why am I so squishy...??"
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