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  1. #11
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallory View Post
    I have absolutely no problem with raid damage at all, I think I use maybe 3 whole gcd's on the raid and the rest of it is on our PLD.
    At times, I'm just having trouble keeping up with the damage going out to the PLD. |:
    This is the issue with a PLD solo taking all the stacks. It means one or two of the stack sequences are going to be really tight in terms of healing. As someone else mentioned, you need to make sure your Astro partner is disabling during the hard stacks. They shouldn't need to heal but the disable helps immensely. Ideally your tank needs to hold some CDs for the first two stack debuff sequences and then invulnerably for the last. Keeping up with these for me (as an Astro in the white mage slot) means that I have to make sure to regen him before or at the start of the first stack. And then quickly jump over to biggerheals (cure 2 for you). Usually by stacks 2-3 I'll pop a secondary cooldown so I can keep up properly (for Astros this would be Synergy or Light speed) I essentially hold one cooldown for each of the three stack cycles you would observe. Below is the rough cycle and how I would do it on white mage.

    For Hummel you have 90 seconds of duration so I would plan things as follows on a white mage:
    Stacks 1-2 : Regen and Cure spam
    Stack 3 : Divine Seal
    Stacks 4-5 : Cure2 spam
    Panzer : AE heal, Virus, Regen tank
    Stack 5 : Cure2 spam
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    Stacks 1-2 : Regen and Cure spam
    Stack 3 : Asylum
    Stack 4 : Cure2 spam
    Panzer : AE heal
    Panzer : AE heal and Eye for an Eye
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    Stacks 1-2 : Regen and Cure spam
    Stack 3 : Presence of Mind
    Stack 4+ : Cure2 spam
    ---
    Hold Benediction/Tetragrammaton on reserve for any nasty criticals
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 04-22-2016 at 11:27 PM.
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  2. #12
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    As for my group with whm/AST (me as AST)
    The whm handle everything and I don't care if WE wipe because tye whm fail healing.
    Shit happends, crit happends and solo healing is hard so it's fine.

    As Off-heal I do not put a single gcd into healing.
    Never drop the CS and it's fine that way.
    Plus i'm doing 1050 DPS while feeding awful cars to my group...
    (Not a single balance or arrow and we down it anyway... Rng shame) -,-
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    As Off-heal I do not put a single gcd into healing.
    You should disable the boss during the first set of stacks if you aren't.

    It is interesting to note that WHM/AST means a measurably tougher solo heal. None the less if you plan your cooldowns correctly you shouldn't have any issue.
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 04-23-2016 at 05:17 AM.
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  4. #14
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    Thea Sitori
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    Yep, main healer should be able to solo heal the whole thing without any help from the off-healer so they can stay in cleric the whole way. Even White Mage's weak virus can help. As AST main healer I just disable during the WAR's higher stacks Hammel. It's mainly in-case they don't get their last cooldown or holmgang up in-time before it's voked off.
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    Last edited by technole; 04-23-2016 at 03:10 AM.

  5. #15
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Oh yeah i do agree !
    Disable is support skill that I macroed so yeah abused it XP
    My whm require it during the double massive aoe

    And I still provide card support
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    Oh yeah i do agree !
    o/ Cool I kind of figured you did from how you were talking about it... but I was being a witch that day and being overly precise =-)
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  7. #17
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Even if I want to keep my place in top 10 AST on hummelfaust
    I'm not heartless and leave my whm in healing pain x3
    If I have to i will help and forget about my DPS.
    Because being alive is better than 10 more DPS point

    The one things i AM upset is that it is not our smn pov
    He prefer DPS over supporting us.
    EfaE and virus... Doesn't deal damage so he won't use them if WE do not yell/ask for it.

    *sigh & rolleyes*
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  8. #18
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    Sam Lihzeh
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 80
    His general rotation is fairly simple to throw in specific cds to help survive in my experience. His first set of cleaves stacks up to 5 and will need a bunch of cds on the tank's part to survive. Generally where my group ran into problems was after the first panzercrack. Immediately after that cast hits, we have our sch virus the boss and place a sacred soil to mitigate the next four stacks. Once he starts casting the double crack, we just have our drk drop grit and dps the rest. Once both cracks go off, our whm swaps into cleric stance and we just have our drk die in ld so we can maximize group dps for the last 20 sec
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  9. #19
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    Rose Kilupa
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    Sargatanas
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    Have your AST bole MT.

    Imo solo tanking is meh. Having tank swaps ensure smoother healing.

    Your PLD can Divine Shield or whatever for second Panzer, and your AST should do CO long enough for group to get the regens. You should be keeping up Med 2, and if you follow this along with Disable (and Supervirus if you have a SMN), you won't need to AoE heal second Panzer. It'll be close, and people will prob survive with 1-5k HP, but aftet that Panzer, there is no group damage until enrage. Instead of using that AoE heal, you can Cure 2 the tank.
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  10. #20
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    Also, if you're wiping to last Panzer, its a DPS problem. Third Panzer set is enrage, no amount of healing will save your group there.
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