Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Mysterysword]

So Duty Roulette drops me into Haukke Manor, normal, as a MCH. The rest of the party is a premade consisting of an ARC, a CNJ, and a GLA. None of them are level-synced. I can foresee how this is going to go, but it doesn't really bother me. Everyone needs to start somewhere, I guess, leveling, and all that.

Of course I'm pulling aggro on almost every pull. Even when I switch targets when I pull 1, it doesn't help too much, since even when the groups are down to 1 mob, the GLA still keeps losing aggro to me. Honestly, it doesn't bother me too much, since I can understand that tanking without access to your job stone sucks. I've experienced it myself.

So this continues until we're near the second boss, and I use the LB -- which I've already used once, on the first boss -- on a group of mobs. And GLA starts bitching at me, claiming that I "fuck up DPS", and that if I'd just attack the mobs he's attacking, I wouldn't be peeling mobs from him. I don't bother pointing out that this is what I've been doing ever since they actually bothered to mark it, nor have they actually mentioned that they'd like me to do this.

Naturally, it ended with me being vote-kicked. I never once used a shred of abusive language towards any of them, and the only comment I made about their playstyles was saying the GLA could stand to use Flash a bit more.

It's so frustrating. I can be the nicest, friendliest, most helpful player anyone's ever met, but having to deal with people like these just drain all my patience. If they'd just spoken up and told me to attack specific mobs, without being assholes about it, I would've done it without a single complaint. But they just had to be nasty. On the bright side, I didn't have to deal with them anymore and since they very nicely left me all their names, I got to make a report.

[NaesakiAshwell]

It's so frustrating. I can be the nicest, friendliest, most helpful player anyone's ever met, but having to deal with people like these just drain all my patience. If they'd just spoken up and told me to attack specific mobs, without being assholes about it, I would've done it without a single complaint. But they just had to be nasty. On the bright side, I didn't have to deal with them anymore and since they very nicely left me all their names, I got to make a report.

Just never lose the friendly attitude and niceness etc, those kind of players aren't worth you fretting over, they lost out and they were ultimately poor players for not explaining or saying anything and then blaming all their shortcomings on you when the Tank was clearly at fault.

[HyoMinPark]

Haven't posted here in a while, but I've had plenty of crappy DF runs since my last post.

Let me just touch on two that really stick out, one of which happened less than 30 minutes ago.

A few weeks ago, I was level AST, and since I was at 58, that meant The Vault. Okay. I hate that place. Every time I go in, unless its with my friends in a premade, I always get derpy party members and we wipe on the 2nd boss (sometimes), and usually always wipe on the last boss. Anyways, I went in with a friend who was leveling his BRD. We get a BLM, and a DRK.

First off, the BLM was using Transpose. Now, i don't know much about BLM since my THM is only lvl 26, but I do know they have Blizzard III and Fire III to use rather than transpose. DPS was really slow, and the tank was super squishy, so no DPSing for me. I was constantly running at below half MP, and OF COURSE, my heart of the cards didn't think I actually needed those Ewers. So I'm popping LA every time it's off cooldown, and my friend is playing his song for me when needed. We wipe on the last boss because there were three of those bubbles EVERYWHERE, and so the tank decides to turn the boss facing me. Well, I'm mid-cast for a Benefic II (had to spam that the entire time because Benefic just wasn't enough), and while I'm trying to run, the boss cleaves, and I die. They manage to pull through while I respawn at start.

Skip to last boss: I do my usual pre-pull shield buffs in noct, and then switch to diurnal and draw a card (FINALLY A EWER!), when the BLM starts complaining about how they can't believe I'm healing in diurnal instead of noct and how, as a level 60 AST, they ALWAYS use noct. I said I prefer diurnal in here because the regens from my AB and AH help, rather than my poor shields that break with half a hit. I said we all have our own preferences. By then, my shields have worn off, and the tank pulls, so no time to recast them. We get to the DPS check, and, with me DPSing and my BRD friend popping every buff he had, we still had 2 orbs left. After that, the horses come out, tank stands in them, gets hit with Bleed, and proceeds to die. This happens twice (as in we wipe twice to the SAME mistakes).

BRD friend give tank advice, asking him to use Dark Mind and Delirium combo to help with the damage he's taking (which is a lot). BLM says "Why bother when we aren't getting heals." Oh my god, I lost it. I spent the entire dungeon at below half MP, spamming every heal and regen I had, praying for more and more Boles and extending them with Royal Road and Time Dilation whenever I could to use on the tank, and ACTUALLY hoping for Ewers to hold for myself. So I tell them such. Tank jumps in (they're together btw) and accuses my friend of facetanking (because he jumped in and accused the tank of refusing to use cooldowns other than Convalescence, which he popped at full health, as well as Living Dead). My friend lost it and said the only damage he was taking was the unavoidable AOE damage the last boss dishes out. We argue at the boss for a bit, and then begin. But before, the BLM looks at me and says "Try actually healing this time, dollface." They proceed to stand still while chained and take about as much damage as they can, and I don't even try to heal them. I am so done with them at this point. I spent the entire dungeon keeping everyone alive and really? Doll face?

We actually clear without the BLM, and they're like "OMG, you CAN heal." And I said "Yeah, I can. Doll face." They proceed to leave all butthurt, followed by their friend. It was terrible. I refuse to ever heal The Vault again.

Second one: Sunken Temple on DRG with a friend. Healer refuses to heal...too busy DPSing and pulling mobs/bosses. Tank dies twice, and they they complain at us for not using Chaos Thrust combo (lol we're level 37 wut yes, let's use a level 50 skill at 37 why not), and not using both DoTs (always using Phleb, and Disembowl is lvl 38...). This was after they used the healer LB twice when none of us were dying because we were "wasting it" by not using it at the very beginning I guess... Terrible. Just...terrible.


TL;DR - I hate DF.

[FinaSel]

...Pfft, who needs a tank anyway?

That's a great story! It reminds me of the time I was in Brayflox normal and the tank pulled every mob in the first area and we wiped, twice in a row.
(The third time he pulled every mob AND ran right into the boss and began attacking the boss too.) We kicked him. Then the healer left. Amazingly, we got a new one right away.
We waited a while for a tank, but no one came.
I was a Summoner and not level synced. I had never used Topaz carbuncle in a dungeon before, but decided to try it.
It was really challenging to control both the pet and myself, switching from mob to mob to maintain enmity.

The healer told me it was very difficult to heal the pet because it doesn't appear in the PT list, so I had to use Physick to heal it myself.
We get to the last boss with no deaths. As soon as we engage the boss, a tank joins the PT but doesn't make it to the boss before the area is closed off.

I'm moving carbuncle out of the poison from the boss and balancing physick and DPS. The healer and DPS in the group were awesome and very patient.
We beat the boss on the first try without a single death.

I haven't used Titan-Egi in a dungeon yet, but Topaz Carbuncle, when used correctly in low level dungeons, can be an awesome tank.

And this is how I fell in love with being a summoner.

...if I'd just attack the mobs he's attacking, I wouldn't be peeling mobs from him.

Sometimes it's difficult to see what mob the tank is attacking, or sometimes the tank will switch to another mob pretty quickly.
I have one of my keybinds on my mouse to "target target's target". So if I select the tank, and then press the key, it automatically switches to the tank's target.

Because I'm a healer, switching back to the tank is as easy as pressing the key again. Another mouse key is to switch in and out of cleric stance. So to switch to mob to tank, turn off CS, turn on CS, switch back to mob, is really easy.

If you haven't been using "Target target's target", it might be a useful keybind to try out.

[tinythinker]

Don't worry so much about it =) I still remember my first Qarn run with horror. All the wipes on the first boss. After 30-45 minutes of not getting past the first boss, we finally had to say that it wasn't possible with the party composition we had -- I think this was before vote kick; it was way early in the history of ARR, at least -- so we voted to abandon the duty. Tried it again a few months later (didn't have that much time to play back then, so hadn't gotten that much further in the game), with friends, and was astonished over how easy it all seemed to be. In comparison to that first run, I mean.

UPDATE: Ran with guild member and two patient strangers, got good boss fight info, whole thing went smooth. Completion achieved.

[Mysterysword]

Sometimes it's difficult to see what mob the tank is attacking, or sometimes the tank will switch to another mob pretty quickly.
I have one of my keybinds on my mouse to "target target's target". So if I select the tank, and then press the key, it automatically switches to the tank's target.

Because I'm a healer, switching back to the tank is as easy as pressing the key again. Another mouse key is to switch in and out of cleric stance. So to switch to mob to tank, turn off CS, turn on CS, switch back to mob, is really easy.

If you haven't been using "Target target's target", it might be a useful keybind to try out.

That does sound useful, but the exact same effect can be achieved by simply having someone to mark a target to focus on. I don't run into a situation where it would be necessary too often, though, so it doesn't justify devoting a keybind to it for me. But ultimately, I wasn't the one throwing a tantrum and insulting the tank for not being able to keep aggro from me. They were the ones insulting me for doing too much DPS. As a level 31 MCH.

[AlwaysGuilty]

Reminds me of my 1st vault run. DRK was bitching about everything, bearing in mind we weren't doing anything wrong. So, we get to the last boss fight, and there's a fight in chat between me (NIN) and the DRK, which in my replies I'm not swearing or being mean, just being sarcastic. Well eventually, we get a new healer and because the DRK was being a bitch, there's a vote kick for me, healer clicks yes and there I go.

First and last vote kick I've ever gotten.

[Squigley]

Doll face

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TL;DR - I hate DF.

Hey, you're Park Hyomin, you just have to deal with it.

And yeah, I hate the dungeon finder too. Too bad this game doesn't really have much to do at level cap if you're trying to avoid the DF like the plague

[Skinypupy]

Did a Void Ark run last night, and the DPS in our party consisted of three BRDs (including me) and two BLM. Three BRDs to sing Foes Requiem, this should go pretty well, I thought. I tell everyone "I've got first Foes", they respond with "K".

I notice that after I'm out of MP, neither of the other BRDs sing. I ask "Foes?"...no response. I sing Foes again at the first boss, and get nothing from either of them once I'm out of MP. "Maybe they don't know how Foes works" I think to myself. I guess I'll just keep it up as much as I can and hope that they pitch in at some point.

As we fight the first boss, I keep seeing Wide Volley (AOE) come down when it's just the boss and no ads. I can't for the life of me figure out why they'd be using an AOE on a single target, but whatever. I start watching them a little closer, and notice that they're literally doing nothing but spamming Wide Volley until they're out of TP, then auto-attacking. No DOTs, no CDs, no songs...just AOE attacks on a single target. Same pattern on the second boss, and they wouldn't even bother to pick up the Arc Ked ads as they spawned.

I'm finally starting to see why BRD's get a bad rep. At the end of VA, one of the BLM's commented something along the lines of "You BRDs should really learn how to play" before he zoned out. Some of us are trying, I promise!

[Anzer]

While leveling Conjurer up to 34 in anticipation of unlocking the HW content (the struggle is real though, these filler quests are soul-sucking), I get Haukke Manor. Load in, greet everyone and mention it's my first time healing this. As I'm typing, the tank has disappeared...where did he-? I see his health start dropping in chunks, then he comes high-tailing it back to us with I can only assume the entire first area behind him.

A fustercluck ensues, people dying left and right, anarchy, madness, wailing and gnashing of teeth, etc... I notice the tank respawn and take off running again. I call out to everyone to wipe and regroup so we can rebuff and actually work together instead of just dying repeatedly. The DPS agrees and we wait for a few seconds for the tank to die again (this is his 5th splat by this point, without even a "wwwww" from him) so we can move forward as a full party. Tank respawns, we respawn, I start casting Protect...and he's run off again. I say "fudge it, lets follow him, see how this goes" we all take off chasing this insane person. He leads us to the door we're supposed to open, then because we haven't managed to kill more than 1-2 mobs and nobody has a key, he just auto-runs into the door and dies from the 10 mobs smashing his face in. Because I was stupidly trying to keep him alive, thinking we might actually work together, I proceed to kiss the floor, followed shortly by the dragoon and black mage.

I just...I can't. I apologize to the DPS, but I've exceeded my quota of stupid for the day and take the penalty. There was no way to vote-kick this guy because he just kept running into mobs and respawning constantly. So that was my worst experience as a baby healer.