Tank behavior in duties, brings lots of ???

[Olil]

I'm confused about tank behavior in duties. I like healing, but I have level, for example, gladiator to about 15 or so. I know Flash is used to generate the threat. But, a lot of times I am in duties and the gladiator won't use Flash. At all.

So, I limit my healing as much as I can, but always pull aggro and end up dying. Sometimes, people will say something about it, like, " Can you use flash more?"

The tank replies, "Sure." Then doesn't at all. But, when someone dies they run around the body spamming Flash and laughing.

Normally, I'd chock it up to poor luck of the draw. But, it's been well over a dozen times I've seen this kind of behavior or some variation of it.

So, my question is: Is there some kind of meta with how tanks perform their role in duties that I"m unaware of? Or, is it really just bad luck with random parties?

I've asked players on my server to do it as well, hoping to avoid that kind of situation. And the server-folk will often also only use their taunting skills after a player has died, running around their bodies and laughing, ultimately causing the group to abandon.

[WeekendSoja]

Man...a lot of these threads today, bad players are bad. Talk to them once, if they still cause trouble that's harassment and vote kick. Being super conservative with this topic is just the wrong way, if you tried reaching out to them once with the simple advice of "please use flash more" they respond in the affirmative but still troll you, give them the smelly boot, it's like the ninja in my pt, afk in between pulls for long periods, watch him as no animations for actions are triggered, he does move out of aoes which cause him to die. I talked to him twice, shame on me for being optimistic...no reply from the nin, swift boot man. Tolerance is only acceptable if change is made, enabling this is just silly.

[CookieMonsta]

I believe what you encountered is a common species of Tank called a troll.

[Kerii]

I have to agree with the above suggestion. Give them one benefit of a doubt, then try to boot them. If that doesn't work, just leave the run quietly. The worst thing you can ever do with trolls, or jerks in general, is give them the time of day.

[elemental10]

Flash???

Why Flash??? You just flash once and just kill them all. Flashing is a waste of GCD because it doesn't do damage and will decrease overall dps.

/sarcasm

[Cherie]

Meh, each case of trolling can have different solutions.

Most trolls aren't original. As OP pointed out, it seems this happened to them more than once. It's happened to me as well.

I was on pugilist I think at the time? I was getting annoyed because tank would refuse to flash and healer was tanking everything. Healer was upset and tank was either doing by accident or trolling but he wouldn't flash. To appease the healer, I took it upon myself to switch a cross class skill for flash and boom, instant pugilist tank! Sure it's not effective but, hey, we finished the dungeon and the tank magically figured out how to flash shortly after. Stopping a troll without incident is easy enough if you can think of a way to make something not fun for them by doing something they don't expect. I don't have a way to divert most trolls but hey, this no-flash tank troll I have seen MANY times so I was prepared in that instance.

TL;DR >When you are a better troll than the trolling pug tank

[Laerune]

I have met tanks that refused to flash/overpower, dps players that refuse to use skills that increase their damage for % and healers that stay om 95% mana and stand there the whole run. Some players are trolling, some are ignorant of their abilities and others are plain lazy.

There is sadly not much you can do about these players, you can educate them, but the players that are trolling or are lazy to use certain abilities will not listen to you. My advice just do the dungeon with them and move on, there are alot of these players, so expect alot of them in this game and other mmorpgs.

PS: Anyone else noticed that DF tanks dont use their defensive skills, DPS dont use their offensive buffs skills, unless they are fighting bosses, Bards never sing and healers never use any of their defensive skills or the one that increases spell speed, Healing power etc.

[Saccharin]

Sometimes, people will say something about it, like, " Can you use flash more?"

The tank replies, "Sure." Then doesn't at all.

Then you kick them.

GLD is one of the easiest to do but not using your combo or flash is hell for a healer. If they dont heed basic advice I kick them. If you dont understand it you have no place tanking.

[Gimorian401]

I'm a career tank and I can agree with seeing the troll tanks and the tanks that refuse to do the basics of their job. Trolls just boot and if boot fails leave. going after them gives them what they want. Attention. As for DF and people forgetting they have abilities or a rotation, I can see people want to just get thru it with as little effort as possible I can also see a Savage raider not wanting to go all out to a lesser skilled tank. There are lots of reasons. Just have fun, boot the jerks and remember why you play

[pikster]

I have to agree with the above suggestion. Give them one benefit of a doubt, then try to boot them. If that doesn't work, just leave the run quietly. The worst thing you can ever do with trolls, or jerks in general, is give them the time of day.

Man...a lot of these threads today, bad players are bad. Talk to them once, if they still cause trouble that's harassment and vote kick.

Then you kick them.

I'm a career tank and I can agree with seeing the troll tanks and the tanks that refuse to do the basics of their job. Trolls just boot and if boot fails leave.

Please OP. Do not follow the advice given to you in this thread , a tank not using flash, a DPS not playing their rotation well or a healer not healing well is not a bootable offence. Abuse of the Vote Kick feature is something these people can then report you for and you end up getting in more bother than them.

If they are actually harrising your, AFK or Offline, go ahead and kick but poor play is not one of the options, nor is "I think they might be trolling"...