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    Flo Fyloord
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    This statement is simply incorrect. Before, you could throw out sleeps and not really have to think about the timing or the window of CC and pressure you'd be putting on the enemy team. Now, that is a huge factor when using Repose. I'm really unsure how you can argue against this. It's like...you hit a dart board around the outer ring before, but now you have to hit a bullseye. Does that make sense to you?
    I get what you're saying, but running with your dart example, it's not harder to get a bullseye, which really is why repose/sleep is so devastating. A misplaced sleep is going to get cleansed or counter-played with a well-timed purify regardless of it's original duration, and a well placed sleep has a shorter duration (and even 4 seconds is still quite a long time in PvP) but is still nonetheless influential. You even mentioned it briefly, the timing of when the CC comes out is important to be something you can capitalize on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    Also, to your MCH point. Clean shot is not a good indication of when a MCH can burst, as the bulk of their damage does not come from clean shot. You can still 100-0 someone even without clean shot in your burst at all.
    A reassembled Cleaner shot is their second highest potency attack at roughly 345~ potency, only behind BtE (and an undiluted ricochet assuming it crits). If that's really the case, then you might as well leave out sidewinder for BRD so they don't need both DoTs on you, and at that point their burst is stronger than MCH assuming nothing crits (which in going by your example, its going to 100-0 you just as easily). And even riding on what is a good indication or not, any competent bard would give you a 2~ second window of reaction on when a empyreal barrage is going to happen between using barrage and casting empyreal arrow right after, which is about the same timeframe it takes for a MCH to throw out four oGCDs (bind>BtE>Ricochet>GR)
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 04-19-2016 at 10:43 PM.
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    King Stefan
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I get what you're saying, but running with your dart example, it's not harder to get a bullseye.
    I stopped reading here. If you think this way, then there is no reasoning with you. You do not play White Mage, and you are not even in the top 100 players on your Data Center. I was not going to question your credibility, because I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but this right here just goes to show you mean only to argue without basis. I am not here to argue on the internet, I'm here to discuss the game mode with people and take viewpoints of different changes that could/should happen.
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