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  1. #3231
    Player
    Valmaxian's Avatar
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    Jase Shepard
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100

    Derp-Tastic AST

    Time: 4/13, 6:35p.m.
    Place: Saint Mocianne's Arboretum

    Enter four valiant Warriors of Light, including one Astrologian *COUGHin a shiny gold coeurl beach brief swimsuitENDCOUGH*. He thinks he's cool. The Paladin tank bravely rushes forward, pulling all the mobs until the barrier. Yeah. Mr. Golden Underpants has got this. Oh yeah. You already know my plan - get the HoT from CU, pop Synastry, pop my other HoTs, CO, TD, win. As I wait for the CU HoT to appear, a circle AoE telegraph appears when I am channeling. Whatever. I'm cool. I'm shiny. I'm Bro-tastic. I can take it.

    Sleep/Mute/Slow/Vulnerable/Paralyze/Poison/BasicallyeverypossibledebuffintheGAME

    I gotta give the tank credit, he kept himself up through most of this embarrassing spectacle, but even heroes fall. And on that day, the Hero of Light fell. And so did his (very) temporary friends.

    Thankfully, they were really cool about it, and you can bet your Miqo'te tails that I was en flique from that point on.
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  2. #3232
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    Edvardelis's Avatar
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    Limsa Lamosa
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    Edvar'to Polaali
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    I ended up in a Sastasha via roulette on my WHM where the GLD tank had less HP than I did.

    No, really.

    I had like 850 HP, he had ... 750. I checked his gear, he had a sword, shield, the new adventurer stuff... and nothing else equipped.

    My {Cure} would heal him for over 500 HP, so that wasn't an issue, but he was terrible about using {Flash} in spite of us telling him to and the new adventurer gear - which also explained the skill.

    The ACN asked and pulled out {Topaz Carbuncle} which then proceeded to tank most of the dungeon.
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  3. #3233
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    Sida's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sida Bajihri
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Reminds me of one Tam Tara run back when I was leveling my arcanist. I ended up with both, a GLD tank who was playing it like a solo dmg class, killing one monster until it's dead until moving to next (no flash either) despite me and the rogue of the group trying to tell him he should actually tank, that is garner the attention of all few mobs in the pull and keep it. Also the healer of the group was fresh new CNJ who had CS permanent on and when asked about it she told she just wanted to damage but her bf wanted her to make CNJ. So she was not healing. (not a case of "heal when needed", she was decidedly not healing) This being Tam Tara it was still salvageable though. I took my Topaz out, and the topaz + the rogue tanked while I healed as needed apart from my DoTs and our two "I want to play dmg" heroes(gla and cnj) got to do just that.
    (0)
    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  4. #3234
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    Rivxkobe's Avatar
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    Carmine Altair
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Edvardelis View Post

    I had like 850 HP, he had ... 750. I checked his gear, he had a sword, shield, the new adventurer stuff... and nothing else equipped.

    My {Cure} would heal him for over 500 HP, so that wasn't an issue, but he was terrible about using {Flash} in spite of us telling him to and the new adventurer gear - which also explained the skill.
    Not to detract from your point, and it doesn't really matter (but its a pet peeve of mine) but your numbers (health and especially healing amount) are literally impossible in Sastasha NM via roulette. xP

    But anyway. I also was in Sastasha NM via roulette and the tank I had was just... terrible. Never flashed until it was mentioned, then they only used it 3 times, they only used Riot Blade combo, they were always 4th in aggro. You would think with the new Novice Academy tutorial quests people would get at least decent at partying, but it seems to have gotten worse.
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  5. 04-17-2016 02:35 AM

  6. #3235
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Zephyr Menodora
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Not really a "horror story" but annoyed me enough to come share.

    I just finished my Expert Roulette (Lost City Hard). Everything was going fine; I was keeping everyone alive and when I had time casting Aero 3, Aero 2 and Stone 3.

    During the 2nd boss, the Bard says to me, "You don't have to cast regen on me. DPS will regen HP on their own." After the fight, I said "I'm sorry, but ???" The Bard says, "It only matters if we are alive. It doesn't matter if we have low HP. HP regens naturally so you waste time."

    I inspect him, and he has one class at 60 (Bard), about 6 classes unlocked and they are all under 15. None of the mage classes are unlocked.

    I just said "I'll use my time and resources as I see fit, thanks." During the final boss and he says, "Shouldn't you be using Holy?" (It's 1 mob, and I've been using Stone 3 between needing to heal...)

    I was just over it. I just don't understand someone who doesn't have a healing class, berating a healer who not only has been keeping everyone with High HP, but actually DPSing the entire run. So now it's not good enough if I'm not using Holy but using Stone 3 against 1 mob?

    Still a little in disbelief. I can't believe I was told to let HP get low and cast more Holy because healing DPS isn't needed at all and Stone 3 isn't good enough. It made me very annoyed.
    (7)
    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 04-17-2016 at 05:13 AM.

  7. #3236
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    My own healer horror story doesn't have to do with incompetent players. I kind of signed up knowing that they would be out there. It's dealing with my own feelings of inadequacy during instances. "Stupid healer!" "You suck at heals." "I'm dead healer, WTF?" Not once has any of these occurred in my chat log, but it's what I think they are thinking when it happens, and it's what I tell myself when things go wrong. Feeling proud of myself for executing a well-timed mid battle rezz is erased by allowing myself to let the player die in the first place.

    It's like there's this other gauge that no one else sees but me. When tanks dip below 30% and/or die, dps die, pet dies, I die, or witness mistakes on my part chips away at it. The lower it gets, the more of a failure I feel. I think most healers can relate to accomplishing an instance, but still like you totally lost. It's the worst. A lot of this game is me vs me.
    (1)

  8. #3237
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Zephyr Menodora
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Gemina if you are a new player, it can be harder as well as everyone else seems to know all the instances whereas for you as you level will be doing everything for the first time. It's also harder for healers and tanks to learn first time content as groups can work around a new dps messing up, but can't usually work around a dead healer.

    The mechanics in most content are simple, but do need to be learned and reading guides or watching videos even doesn't prepare you to actually live it. (Lost temple at level 35 I'm still looking at you, lol). As you learn more, you will realize that a lot of deaths aren't your fault and may be the result of someone getting hit by something they shouldn't have. You will at least learn when things are actually your fault. You will also be calmer on repeat runs since you already know what to expect.

    That said this is still a game and mistakes happen. For example, I used to be able to dance around Titan Ex before Heavensward. Today I woke up and before having coffee did my Trial roulette thinking I would get my usual Garuda, and got Titan Hard, which is a lot easier than Titan Ex. Well, I got knocked off the ledge since I wasn't awake enough and I was very embarrassed, but just apologized and said I wouldn't roulette again before coffee. I even got a commendation and was pretty much useless because if you fall off the ledge you can't even be rezzed. Don't be too hard on yourself.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 04-17-2016 at 06:43 PM. Reason: iPad typos :(

  9. #3238
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Dravania
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    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Thank you Zephyr! Yes, I am new. It also has not helped that I was away from gaming for 7 years (last game was FFXI), and came back to a whole new era. I don't remember putting this kind of pressure on myself when playing XI, but still had the desire to be the best I can be.

    You are so right. I look at the guides. I watch the videos. I game plan what to do. I show up ridiculously over geared. None of it gives you the real life exp of living it. I beat it into my head that real life players are depending on me, but somehow forget that most of them know I am human too. I really need to accept that not every instance is going to be completed with a pretty bow around it, and I am likely performing a lot better than I am giving myself credit for. I've still gotten comms from such instances so I guess I'm doing something right.

    BTW, I got knocked off my first run with Titan NM and was so disappointed in myself. That was not a pretty sight at all ^^
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  10. #3239
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    It's like there's this other gauge that no one else sees but me. When tanks dip below 30% and/or die, dps die, pet dies, I die, or witness mistakes on my part chips away at it. The lower it gets, the more of a failure I feel. I think most healers can relate to accomplishing an instance, but still like you totally lost. It's the worst. A lot of this game is me vs me.
    If you clear the instance this is the only thing that should matter. Being a Healer isn't always keeping the full party alive through the entire thing it's recovering from what is close to a loss. It's sucks when you do lose but the best thing to do is view each time as a learning experience because if you start doubting yourself you'll never be able to do anything. Learn each time about enemy and boss patterns and also learn how the other people in your party play and when they need to be healed. No Healer ever keeps everyone alive all the time it's like not even the best Tanks will hold aggro forever it's about having that vision to see when you lost control and recovering it. If you don't then the party will collapse a Healer is like the foundation for everyone else to build on.

    First of all you need to get to know your Healer class,their skills and cross class skills,learn how they work and when it's best to use them,learn to love your class. Be like a sponge soaking up new information in each new instance you visit and then when you start hitting post level 50 stuff and have all your cross class skills start learning about the three Tank classes too and how they are played to understand how best to play alongside them. Synergy with the Tank is important nothing you do should interfere with them or make their job harder since by proxy it makes yours harder.

    The number of deaths in a run doesn't make you good or bad what makes you good or bad is the level of control you have over the run. Of course dying yourself sucks too but you have control over that by learning the fight. Just remember if it's a choice between saving yourself and somebody else always pick yourself. you can't heal if you're dead.
    (1)
    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 04-18-2016 at 08:34 AM.

  11. #3240
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    FinaSel's Avatar
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    Character
    Fina Sela'dor
    World
    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70

    Have I been doing the wrong thing this entire time?

    Just got the Castrum Meridianum with another WHM, who was a "mentor".

    Throughout the entire dungeon he only cast 4 spells repeatedly, in this order of Frequency.
    Medica II
    Regen
    Holy
    Stoneskin II

    Even if there was only one mob left, it was either Medica II or Holy.
    Never a single Cure or Cure II. Never a single Stone II or Aero or Aero II.

    Now of course due to the Medica II spam, he was pulling all of the hate. First time, he died, I raised him.
    Second time I barely managed to keep him alive through the onslaught of mobs.
    I told him there was no need to use Medica II since tank will take all of the hate.
    He didn't care. Medica II spam increased.
    Third time he died again. He didn't even try to heal himself. I mean...he did use Medica II again but that's it.

    Now, please tell me. Is there some method to this madness of spamming Medica II and Regen in Castrum Meridianum ? I mean, he was a mentor after all!
    (This is half joking, but also kind of half serious question.)
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    Last edited by FinaSel; 04-18-2016 at 01:56 PM. Reason: Mistook the dungeon name

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