Biggest disappointment as a Scholar.

[FoxyAreku]

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Yeah I've never heard of such an attitude, I can see where it comes from, but the way these people you're hearing are wording it is incredibly laughable to me.

A scholar's job is mitigation, you mitigate everything then DPS when there's nothing to mitigate. All there is to it really. If you properly mitigate, you won't have to 'heal' much because your shields will help enough that the white mage can handle it.

Actually, maybe that's where they're getting the attitude, because Scholar isn't so much a pure healer as it is pure mitigation. Either way, seems there's lots of misconceptions I've never heard of going on in this thread so I'm sorry if I jumped the gun in assuming this was another healer DPS complaint.

Still, outside of A5S, I can't think of a single extreme primal, coil, or savage fight I've ever done that didn't have me constantly stance dancing and using my heals very often, so who knows.

[Tashim]

as a general rule, when a healer doesn't have to heal, its more efficient to have them spend their spare GCDs adding extra dps, as long as they have the mp to do so. sch generally do this first over whm or ast, not because they have higher dps potential, (all three have about the same potential, single-target), but because they have vastly more effective total mp to work with, given the nature of Aetherflow. In a 10 minute fight, a sch can have over 3x their total mp to work with, and thats without using energy drain.

[Valmaxian]

You are not, and never will be, considered a healer of any capacity at all. You're nothing but a glorified DPS that shrugs off all responsibility of the role to the other, infinitely more competent healer while you're off in your own little world spamming dps abilities and occasionally throwing up an Adlo if the stars align and it's necessary. No strategy, no planning, if things go tits up you don't even have the healing power to salvage the raid, you just roll over and die.

But that's just what I've seen from every Scholar I've ever met from 2.5 to now, so I guess people enjoy pretending to be a DPS.

Meanwhile, in the other healer's mind during a difficult moment in the fight...

"OMFG why isn't my healing partner doing their job!!!!! If they Broil one more... OMFG!@#$%^&*!!!!"

[Mimilu]

A WAR complaining about another job being a glorified DPS?
A tank complaining about another job's DPS rotation being repetitive and boring?
Obvious troll post.
Move a long, nothing to see. >w>

[Kabzy]

OP, you can redeem yourself by doing the following:

Step into some form of end game raiding and then come back here. You might find your level of ignorance dropping ever so slightly. ;D

[Krissey]

Someone was trying to tell me Scholar/Summoner MP costs are lesser the more Aetherflow Stacks you have and grow exponentially more expensive the more stacks you use? They didn't really explain it in a way that made sense to me and nothing in the game suggests this would be true but they "watched and tested it".

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Someone was trying to tell me Scholar/Summoner MP costs are lesser the more Aetherflow Stacks you have and grow exponentially more expensive the more stacks you use? They didn't really explain it in a way that made sense to me and nothing in the game suggests this would be true but they "watched and tested it".

The only spell with a variable mp cost is Ruin 3 during Dreadwyrm Trance. Scholar has no spells with variable costs.

They might have been thinking of Black Mage.

[zuzu-bq]

I agree with OP and I'm pretty sad a lot of people here can't understand the healing meta situation that this game presents. SCH dps is not (or shouldn't be) necessary today, it was only made vital for Gordias because of ridiculous dps checks that were meant to be beaten by DPS jobs together with Tanks all geared with high item level weapons (i200). I've been seeing a lot of SCH that aren't competent beating content recently just because their healer partner can handle most healing with little help, and the thing is... yeah, as how healing checks are made, one healer (any job) is enough to heal though almost anything alone. As long the healing checks keep being made as simply conssecutive high damage and they don't implement more healer intensive mechanics the game will keep going by this and one of the two healers in any party composition will always be a glorified DPS. Tank meta have faced this but its easier to fix and SE had easily been slowly working towards it since 2.5. And the situation only got worse with the power of melding letting healer meet Accuracy caps for all Midas Savage turn. I'm not saying this isn't bad or shouldn't happen, I'm saying this made the mentality of a healer being a glorified DPS even stronger.

[Enkonda]

A scholar's job is mitigation, you mitigate everything then DPS when there's nothing to mitigate. All there is to it really. If you properly mitigate, you won't have to 'heal' much because your shields will help enough that the white mage can handle it.

This. I have absolutely no idea where people got the WHM/AST concepts intertwined with each other. WHM is reactive healing and AST (from what I've seen) is a mix of both. SCH however, is purely proactive healing.

A shield is something that allows an individual to not only get hit, but survive for the next hit. We've been using them since the dawn of mankind. The way I see it, as a WHM, even as a stance dancer, I still get a little nervous when going cleric stance 'cause you never know when the party will mess up a choreographed attack which could inevitably lead to a wipe. But as a SCH, I can proactively mitigate everyone so I can safely go into a DPS stance.

Yeah yeah, I'm one of those "please DPS if you've got nothing to do." Not because it's been reinforced by FFXIV social standards, but because it's almost comes off as common sense. A WHM doesn't have many opportunities to dps; a SCH does.
I understand what the OP is saying but the wording makes it sound like a SCH urinated in your breakfast cereal or something.

Should we be enforcing "DPS more DPS more and get off your lazy butts and oh s*it we died! Healer why didn't you heal us?" I don't know; take a poll or something. Though...I'll admit that if I cared for things such as expectations, I'd be thoroughly disappointed if I didn't know what SCH already entailed and thought SCH was on par with WHM ("oh I get this nice healing class called scholar and oh....I guess all I can do is shield...time TO DPS!!!).

[Maltothoris]

Another thing is that on average, sch healing spells do cost more than the whm or the ast. 1060 for an aldo compared to 884 cure 2 or 1326 succor to 1237 medica(which has a 1/5 chance of costing half). They're the class whose healing outside of abilites cost the most with any way to reduce the cost compared to whm's procs or astro's reduced cost.

They're still the most versatile and flexible of the three healers. Being able to dps and healing and having a pet with a heal that costs only 3 seconds and fairly short cds on them.