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    Does Royal Authority kinda bug anyone else?

    Okay so for those of you who leveled each tank to 60, you may have noticed something "off" about Paladin and Royal Authority. Each tank has a 1-2-3 tier enmity combo, and then Warriors and Dark Knights have a 1-2 split tier 3 combo, that acts as a buff and/or OT utility. But for some reason Royal Authority splits from the Paladins enmity combo. Now while this isn't so bad, a Paladins off combo ends with an ability that creates a DoT. It's a little odd that when you try to refresh your MP that you either refresh the DoT or start a new combo. Anyone else feel like Royal Authority should've branched off of Riot Blade instead?
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    Blah blah blah homogenization blah blah blah. (It wasn't a knock on your post but a common argument in this subforum)

    I personally think it's fine where it is and if anything it further benefits PLD. MP for the most part is non-issue for PLDs thanks to little usage of spells that require MP and Sheltron also giving back enough mp as well as general Goring blade upkeep. Sure Riot blade is 30 more potency than Savage Blade, but Savage Blade has the increased enmity which is highly valuable when SwO tanking or even tanking in general. The less RoHs you have to use the better right? If anything, Royal Authority should have had an additional effect instead of just flat potency.

    Slash Resist down or Increased Enmity are two things most PLDs ask for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    Blah blah blah homogenization blah blah blah.
    WHAT?

    I didn't say anything about homogenization, I just said where the split combo lies feels odd to me and asked if anyone else felt like that. I have no problem where it is, nor am I or was I asking for it to be switched. I do agree however that Royal Authority should of had some additional benefit, since all other tank combo finishers do.
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    To be perfectly honest I agree with the op, it's placement feels off. Confused me when setting my hotbars up for 60 because war and drk are 1-2-3, syphon/maim, utility. But that's about it. Either way pld works though, and a little bonus for combo on royal authority wouldn't hurt.
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    I like how RO works at the moment with just flat out more potency. Keeps the rotation interesting. Enough aggro? eyep! Goring Blade on? eyep ok RO! RO! Your boat gentle down the stream.

    ahem sorry....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    I like how RO works at the moment with just flat out more potency. Keeps the rotation interesting. Enough aggro? eyep! Goring Blade on? eyep ok RO! RO! Your boat gentle down the stream.

    ahem sorry....
    You missed a RO in your rotation there
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    Yeah, because if it was on Riot blade, it'd be a 730 potency combo.

    Having it branch from Savage blade does two things.
    It keeps it at a less absurd 700 combo.
    It helps maintain threat better than Riot Blade via Savage's threat modifier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Yeah, because if it was on Riot blade, it'd be a 730 potency combo.

    Having it branch from Savage blade does two things.
    It keeps it at a less absurd 700 combo.
    It helps maintain threat better than Riot Blade via Savage's threat modifier.
    Why would that be bad, Dark Arts Souleater is 800, granted its with a boosted skill but it is a high potency. Plus Pallies have the lowest strength so having a 730 combo wouldn't be so bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Why would that be bad, Dark Arts Souleater is 800, granted its with a boosted skill but it is a high potency. Plus Pallies have the lowest strength so having a 730 combo wouldn't be so bad.
    http://xivdb.com/action/3632/Souleater

    Also you can't look at skills in a vacuum. PLD is already doing comparable damage to DRK, any nudge in either direction could send it way too high or way too low. Balance is a bit more tricky than people make it out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    http://xivdb.com/action/3632/Souleater

    Also you can't look at skills in a vacuum. PLD is already doing comparable damage to DRK, any nudge in either direction could send it way too high or way too low. Balance is a bit more tricky than people make it out to be.
    Haven't played my pally in a while, but you are right, when I played Pally, DRK or Warrior the damages were abou equal. I just know Pallies have the "lowest" strength but they are still viable. I have no problems with any tank, where as others can't stop bitching, lol, This post is more about something that confounded me, more than made me wanna "bitch" about how "broken" something is, lol.

    At least this post went better than the one I made in the healer section, like no one got what I meant at all, like AT ALL.
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