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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    The issue I was replying to was "Tomestone capping is fun or not?". I think it's fun because I enjoy level 60 content and tomestones are a direct result for running level 60 content.
    This this this. You can beat around the bush, but if you enjoy doing ANYTHING that gives you tomestones, then by default you enjoy getting tomestones.

    There are many things in the game that give you tomestones. If you don't like any of them, then why even bother playing?

    Rewarded for your choice of what you find fun. That's a good deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    There are many things in the game that give you tomestones. If you don't like any of them, then why even bother playing?
    I think this is kind of wrong. There is a lot of stuff to do apart from tomestones in XIV. But the only content that make use of tomestones also give tomestones. So if you don't enjoy any content that gives tomestones, then you don't even need tomestones to begin with. So just go do something else that you do enjoy in the game.
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  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    I think this is kind of wrong. There is a lot of stuff to do apart from tomestones in XIV. But the only content that make use of tomestones also give tomestones. So if you don't enjoy any content that gives tomestones, then you don't even need tomestones to begin with. So just go do something else that you do enjoy in the game.
    Exactly. If someone is expecting tomestones from say, purely gathering however, they're barking up the wrong tree.
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    The idea that you "dont need something" especially gear is a matter of opinion.
    There are two reasons i can think of that you are wrong right off that bat. Gear progression in this game is fast paced. Even if i dont get this tome gear, a new gear will shortly appear from a new tome. Do i keep not getting new stuff because i dont need it and just wait till they are no longer capped? The situation would still be no different. I would be spamming stuff i dont enjoy to gear only without a cap. Second reason is since gear progresses so fast in this game you can fall behind and not have a high enough ilvl to do new content. I cant keep enjoying xtreme primals without gearing. Even when ex sep came out my ilvl wasnt high enough cause i lost interest in the eso system and had to catch up, it was made worse because of farthings.

    Honestly just because i dont need it doesnt mean i dont want it. I like the gear, i like making my character stronger. What i dont like is the current means of doing so.

    I'm actually fundamentally against weekly caps on anything anyway in a pay to play game.
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  5. #305
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    Im bored honestly
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    I think this is kind of wrong. There is a lot of stuff to do apart from tomestones in XIV. But the only content that make use of tomestones also give tomestones. So if you don't enjoy any content that gives tomestones, then you don't even need tomestones to begin with. So just go do something else that you do enjoy in the game.
    i enjoy raiding savage , but getting tomes from it is once week , and even killing the 4 bosses wont come close to cap u (not that im killing the 4 bosses now ><) , so u are forced to do other content (DR expert mostly since is the fast way ).....and 4 man are a yawnfest sooo boring , DR trial are boring too but at least u are done in 5 min
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Im bored honestly
    I agree with you. I start new characters lately just to relive the fun parts because honestly the end game grinding for tomes has taken its toll. I love the story, but lately there's been less and less story and more and more "filler"
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  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    This just in, company pays attention to profit and in game numbers more than forum complaints. More at 7!
    Tell that to steps of faith, SCOB, and the copious amounts of echo you get.
    Forum whines change this game and they're a massive reason for so many bad (in my opinion) changes, SE seems to listen to the ridiculous complaints rather than the constructive criticism.


    Also, people aren't getting the point of this topic. People are saying it is the FORMULA, that is stale. It's predictable, each major update brings a new tomestone, with a new raid that has normal and savage both have a weekly lockout.
    Then comes a 24 man later on with gear the same ilvl or less than the tome gear. Again, with a weekly lockout.

    So break that down and you basically get mind numbingly easy tomestones/normal modes and then minimal 4 boss static content. It's empty, it's hollow. There is no real substance to it.
    ZERO mid core content or extra raid content for additional gear and something else to do.

    The formula itself is stale there's nothing new I've been doing the same things since 2.0 but just with a renamed tomestone and a reskinned expert roulette, and it's even worse for people who don't do savage due to no static, or time constraints because you literally have nothing but faceroll content right now.
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    Last edited by Jamein; 04-07-2016 at 07:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    There is never any replies to these sort of threads from the devs so I am really thinking this is a lost cause and it is going to stay the same. Only glamour and minions and so forth gets replies... :/
    I'd agree with this.

    A lot of these threads have popped up over the last few weeks / months and none have gotten any kind of response from a Dev. Hell, do we even know these concerns are being passed over to the developers? From what I see the dev's aren't interested in the concerns but only answering trivial questions and they will continue to develop the game down the same path no matter what.
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  10. #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamein View Post
    Tell that to steps of faith, SCOB, and the copious amounts of echo you get.
    Terrible examples. Steps of Faith was gating access to HW, which everyone had to pay for. There was a real risk of them losing subscribers for that.

    Raid difficulty, same thing. If it's too difficult it drives the end game raiders who bash themselves against it to no avail insane, fatiguing them of the game.

    But tomestones? Tomestones are what you get automatically by playing the game, doing what you pay to do. You don't have to go out of your way to get tomestones. If you enjoy playing combat content in the game, you will get tomestones for combat content.

    If it was as disastrous as people are saying, it would have been changed by now. Instead, it's been around for years. There has been no mass loss of subscribers to that.

    So instead of whining about it on the forums and continuing to subscribe despite crying bloody murder, play, and cap, the people whining should speak with what companies listen to most: their money. Otherwise, SE has no good reason at all to change a tried, tested method of holding onto the majority of subscribers.
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    Last edited by Adire; 04-07-2016 at 11:25 PM.

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