Speed of Relics and New iLVL Gear Patches

[Derio]

Just waiting on them to add the materia fusion to the relic.

[Kosmos992k]

They've already said that the relic will always be behind the raiding gear until the very end. Just like it was in ARR. So, by the time 4.0 is about to roll around that's when the completed relic will be BiS because of time spent in acquiring it.

Folks need to remember that the relic weapons are a gear path that was deliberately added for non-raiders to have a way to get good gear. So saying it becomes obsolete within a month is really not very accurate if you consider the relic from the point of view of a player who doesn't raid, or run EX trials. For those players the relic matters, and it's for that group that this exists as a way to obtain a good weapon through grinding not raiding.

[AureliusDraconium]

Folks need to remember that the relic weapons are a gear path that was deliberately added for non-raiders to have a way to get good gear. So saying it becomes obsolete within a month is really not very accurate if you consider the relic from the point of view of a player who doesn't raid, or run EX trials. For those players the relic matters, and it's for that group that this exists as a way to obtain a good weapon through grinding not raiding.

As I see it, the tome weapon is actually the casual friendly weapon. As far as the relic goes, i feel like it is not a casual path for a non raider to go down. Sure the content is easy enough to do. The grind however I would say is more towards the midcore level. Most people who I know, casual as in no raiding/ex trials, who spend a few hours a day playing, will not be done with the grinder step until the weapon is obsolete. So they would be unable to get any use out of it.

I'm doing the relic, however I guess it's just me who considers it a midcore grind. I know it was intended to be a casual weapon from the devs. I just don't feel that it is really a casual grind. Also I look at all the content that is endgame and I think really all someone needs is a lore weapon to be decent at it. A relic weapon is just a hobby weapon at this point to me. If you have the time and gil you may get some use out of it if you complete the current relic step fast enough or depending on your class use it as glamour over the lore weapon.

[Kosmos992k]

As I see it, the tome weapon is actually the casual friendly weapon. As far as the relic goes, it is not a casual path for a non raider to go down. Sure the content is easy enough to do. The grind however I would say is more towards the midcore level. Most people who I know, casual as in no raiding/ex trials, who spend a few hours a day playing, will not be done with the grinder step until the weapon is obsolete. So they would be unable to get any use out of it.

It would depend how far behind the power curve they are playing. Both tome and relic weapons are something of a grind since you either grind tomes or you grind out whatever the relic requires. I can accept tom weapons be casual player friendly, up to a point. The reason I say up to a point is that I think casual players are unlikely to be capping the top tier tomes, so they are still chasing well behind the curve.

[AureliusDraconium]

It would depend how far behind the power curve they are playing. Both tome and relic weapons are something of a grind since you either grind tomes or you grind out whatever the relic requires. I can accept tom weapons be casual player friendly, up to a point. The reason I say up to a point is that I think casual players are unlikely to be capping the top tier tomes, so they are still chasing well behind the curve.

I agree that the lore weapon can be grind in its self in terms of capping tomes every week. I also think the tome grind is the worst enemy of the relic. I know its a good thing when I like to gear out alts with it. I just think the casual crowd sees it as better than relic considering it's more straightforward of a grind.

[MistyMew]

Would actually like them to slow the introduction of new gear down somewhat yup.

[FoxyAreku]

There won't be a gear update until the next wing of alexander which I wouldn't expect for like 6 months personally, not counting the catch up gear that'll be in the next wing of void ark. It's fine how it is.

[CGMidlander]

What's your opinion? Here's my 50 gil: I hate it.

RELIC
The Relic weapon hardly seems worth it if it's only the strongest weapon for maybe a month. The updates with new content and gear come way too fast and make the relic weapon obsolete until weeks later they add a new quest to bring the Relic up to the current max ilvl and then repeat the loop. It's holding me back knowing that soon a patch comes where I can buy, craft or farm a better weapon easier.

I don't know about you, but I do the relic for glamour. (And sometimes just the grinding process itself -- it gives me something to do.)

[AngelicSence]

Yes, basically, SE created a competition. Where you chase this weapon then that weapon, just to keep us doing something. I agree, I don't like it myself.

Speaking of relic process, I believe it's not about how long it takes to get an anima, but what we truly receive in return. Acquiring relic weapon should be hard and time consuming process - and for all our work that we did, in patch 3.25, this weapon should of had at least ilevel235 or 240 (all stats are adjusted). Maybe SE don't have to change the patterns, but simply adjust stats and make it reasonable each update.

[Synestra]

It will encourage raising and encourage levelling more than one class.

Tbh im against alts as it breeds sucky players because they dont focus on mastering one job first, instead they become jack of all trade master of none and you really dont want them in your party.