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  1. #11
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    whythehate's Avatar
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    Wtbgu'cum Chepgillolz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrimfaxi View Post
    I think I saw her post once but its so long and pretty intense. Though I did not see any solutions in. D:
    a simple no bonus checker would at least make a start, there will always be those that had paid for a clear or being carried hardcore but something is better than nothing.
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  2. #12
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    Foedral Fell
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    Just run past them, unless they're in their humanoid form in which case you'll need to use napalm rounds/Molotov cocktails.
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leeches are just as good as Esuna!
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    The best way to deal with it is to hold them accountable and not give them a free pass. Whenever I join a farm or its my farm party, I'm just not gonna stick around or keep people who aren't honest about their clear, or perform far below what's expected that it can be considered a carry.
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  5. #15
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    The best way to deal with it is to hold them accountable and not give them a free pass. Whenever I join a farm or its my farm party, I'm just not gonna stick around or keep people who aren't honest about their clear, or perform far below what's expected that it can be considered a carry.
    To be fair ive seen ppl who have "clears" who do worse then a bonus player, yet no one decides to kick them....id consider them a leech more then anything. Problem is after 2 weeks of the Primal fight coming out, no body really runs it as much anymore, hardly any Practice runs are made. So if your only just getting up to the gear lvl because ur behind or new to 60 stuff like that compared to older players then ur outta luck for clearing content...

    Ask your self this, did you clear with someone who all ready cleared? if yes then you to was carried ( this is asked to everyone not just you rice )
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  6. #16
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    Winter Luna had a simple and effective solution to this. Please visit her thread and feel shame at humanity for the things the nay-sayers came up with.
    Thank you for adding this here, I was just about to! I'll edit in a moment with a link to the thread I made if you guys want to take a look. It's just my suggestion to combat leeching.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...arty-Finder%21
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 04-06-2016 at 06:08 AM. Reason: Added link

  7. #17
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    To be fair ive seen ppl who have "clears" who do worse then a bonus player, yet no one decides to kick them....id consider them a leech more then anything. Problem is after 2 weeks of the Primal fight coming out, no body really runs it as much anymore, hardly any Practice runs are made. So if your only just getting up to the gear lvl because ur behind or new to 60 stuff like that compared to older players then ur outta luck for clearing content...
    It becomes circumstantial. If you have to be dishonest about a clear to sneak into a farm party and only to get exposed after we zone in, I'd probably get rid of you/leave on that principle alone


    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Ask your self this, did you clear with someone who all ready cleared? if yes then you to was carried ( this is asked to everyone not just you rice )
    This is missing the context of my point, but I'll answer it anyway. No, I cleared it with my static. Even if you got your clear with people that have previously cleared it, it does not mean it was a carry. I even let uncleared people in my farm parties depending on the circumstances (such as a healer or a tank that's survived to enrage, because that's not their job)
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  8. #18
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    This is missing the context of my point, but I'll answer it anyway. No, I cleared it with my static. Even if you got your clear with people that have previously cleared it, it does not mean it was a carry. I even let uncleared people in my farm parties depending on the circumstances (such as a healer or a tank that's survived to enrage, because that's not their job)
    How was you not carried? It is the same you went in with people who all ready done it, so you was carried by those who completed it before you, therefore this whole topic is just some jackass being salty because he didn't get his 1st try clear.. sephi ex is one of the most challenging fights yet, cant expect players to clear fight time around.

    People just need to stop this entitled "i have a clear so im god and know the fight, i can not make a mistake once" While again most times ones who screw up are the ones who cleared it.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    How was you not carried? It is the same you went in with people who all ready done it, so you was carried by those who completed it before you, therefore this whole topic is just some jackass being salty because he didn't get his 1st try clear.. sephi ex is one of the most challenging fights yet, cant expect players to clear fight time around.

    People just need to stop this entitled "i have a clear so im god and know the fight, i can not make a mistake once" While again most times ones who screw up are the ones who cleared it.
    Like I said, you're asking a question that has absolutely no context, let alone the one I'm coming from. My static didn't have it cleared either prior to our clear as a static. Honestly if you can't even read into what I'm posting, then you should take another look at the topic in general to understand where everyone is coming from, because your responses don't reflect that.

    No one is saying "no clear = no experience" or "clear = able to farm", far from it. But you're not taking that context into mind. There's always exceptions when it comes to this sort of thing, but there's also objective things that you shouldn't do (like lie about a clear for example)
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  10. #20
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Ask your self this, did you clear with someone who all ready cleared? if yes then you to was carried ( this is asked to everyone not just you rice )
    It is a difference when people help with practising and sneaking into a farm party.

    The first group did agree to practise.

    The second group don't want to practise.

    The point of this thread is the second group
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 04-06-2016 at 10:58 AM.

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