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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    nektulos: yup war is the most easy class to get full dps potency
    paladin? Its dps rotation is the easiest out of the tanks. You have no stack mechanic, infuriate, triple fell cleave, decimate, raw intuition/vengeance for added stacks, or no storms eye/maim to worry about. Just 2 oGCDS, your dot, and mainly spamming your flashy as fuck dps combo right after your dot.

    3 oGCDS if you are main tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
    paladin? Its dps rotation is the easiest out of the tanks.
    Paladin is just the easiest tank period. It pays for this by having the lowest damage though, MT or OT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    Paladin is just the easiest tank period.
    Well I understood that. But I don't think it pays for damage just because its easiest. I always thought it was because of they were supposed to be THE meat wall that is unrivaled for physical damage.

    Being easiest sure doesn't stop monk *cough* sorry I'll stop.


    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    with only 2 combos and a fell cleave you have a nice dps, my war before 3.2 only whit this simple rotation hit more that 1000 dps so yes war is easy, if you use the derp mode is simple to because is a rotation you have is alwais the same, you prepare, execute and end, at least for me is the most easy of the 3, OT speaking of course, but i think no war go to MT now.
    this is factually wrong though. Paladins rotation is regarded as the easiest. Thats not to say Warrior's rotation is crazy complicated, but "nice dps" DOESN'T mean you obtain full dps as you've said in your last post. You aren't even fully trying to optimize the class from the sound of it so why act like you are playing it at its max potential. Stack timing, vengeance/int to triple fell or not/saving it, and knowing when to get the most of your berserk to squeeze the most dps you can. Of course playing warrior at its basic level is easy which you are doing.

    you must not paladin very much if you think thats harder than warrior.
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    Last edited by Gameplayzero; 04-05-2016 at 10:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
    Well I understood that. But I don't think it pays for damage just because its easiest. I always thought it was because of they were supposed to be THE meat wall that is unrivaled for physical damage.
    Paladin lacks damage for the same reason that Bards and Machinists do. Paladin's have unrivaled support, and while yes, their specialty as a tank is physical opponents when compared to Dark Knight and Warrior, it is really their healing and supportive magic that causes them to deal less damage. Also Hallowed Ground. There's no good way to balance Hallowed Ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniPrinny View Post
    Paladin lacks damage for the same reason that Bards and Machinists do. Paladin's have unrivaled support, and while yes, their specialty as a tank is physical opponents when compared to Dark Knight and Warrior, it is really their healing and supportive magic that causes them to deal less damage. Also Hallowed Ground. There's no good way to balance Hallowed Ground.
    It DOES have a 7 minute! cooldown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
    paladin? Its dps rotation is the easiest out of the tanks. You have no stack mechanic, infuriate, triple fell cleave, decimate, raw intuition/vengeance for added stacks, or no storms eye/maim to worry about. Just 2 oGCDS, your dot, and mainly spamming your flashy as fuck dps combo right after your dot.

    3 oGCDS if you are main tanking.
    with only 2 combos and a fell cleave you have a nice dps, my war before 3.2 only whit this simple rotation hit more that 1000 dps so yes war is easy, if you use the derp mode is simple to because is a rotation you have is alwais the same, you prepare, execute and end, at least for me is the most easy of the 3, OT speaking of course, but i think no war go to MT now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    i think no war go to MT now.
    I think this is something worth announcing a bit louder. I have nothing against Warrior, but Dark Knight's largest weakness, their off-tanking, essentially gives Warrior a free ticket to raids. Since it is basically "Warrior + Paladin or Dark Knight" with no room for "Paladin + Dark Knight." And I understand that Dark Knight is meant to be Paladin's rival in SE's eyes, but being a rival is not an excuse to bring less than either tank to the table when not actively tanking.
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