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  1. #2511
    Player
    ZhoRa13's Avatar
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    Feb 2016
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    Ul'dah
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    Zhora Kaseishin
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
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    Typical RNJesus: matches you up with people like that for his own amusement, then gives you a reward for your tenacity (like getting almost 50 normal ore before you get 3 HQ ones (WITH A FLIPPIN' 45-50% CHANCE FOR A HQ!!!), but then making you succeed on a HQ craft with < 50% Chance). Praised be the lord of games!

    Honestly though - props for putting up with that. Most people would just ragequit.
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  2. #2512
    Player
    vanitaslaughing's Avatar
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    May 2015
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Xhu'lahen Tia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    So I didn't do Void Ark all week because I really don't like that place, but I kinda needed the weekly drop. Got my BLM to 60 yesterday and I'm on laptop instead of PS4 this time around, so my framerate is kinda faulty. That should be fine, I guess.

    The run itself was smooth with no wipes but... alliance B's healer and tank wouldn't shut up and just spammed the entire Alliance chat without end... I don't think Rosemary in Metal Gear Solid 2 says "Jaaaaaack" that much... Didn't help there was a very loud exploding/crashing sound during Echidna and I froze up in shock so much I got hit by shit. At least my party understood why I didn't move for a couple seconds, we were all so annoyed by that point, good grief.
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  3. #2513
    Player
    Jeni's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Jenini Jeni
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Roshinu View Post
    the other BLM just spams Fire IV until he runs out of MP, then waits until he gets enough MP back .. and starts spamming Fire IV again.
    While I can only read as much from your post, you really want to use Fire 4 as much as possible as a level 60 BLM. It is actually the most mana-efficient nuke we have in astral (not to be confused with Fire 3, which is the least efficient and should never be spammed) but the real catch lies in keeping up the two buffs needed (astral fire, enochian) to be able to use it. So this player being able to use Fire 4 nonstop actually sounds like he did a good job.

    Now the fact he was last in enmity of course tells us that he did something very wrong (even if quelling strikes were involved, which many BLMs only use if they actually are in trouble of getting aggro).

    I always felt the need to apologize for my incompetent colleagues, but since 3.0 it's gotten so bad that I can only shake my head in disbelief.
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    Laws should be made of pudding, not of iron!
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  4. #2514
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Lelane Lavellan
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeni View Post
    While I can only read as much from your post, you really want to use Fire 4 as much as possible as a level 60 BLM.
    From how I'm reading it the problem might have been that he wasn't switching out to Umbral Ice, but instead just waiting for Astral Fire to fall off and his MP to regenerate naturally. Which would dramatically lower dps as that does take quite a long time.
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  5. #2515
    Player
    Roshinu's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Roshinu Mikazuki
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    From how I'm reading it the problem might have been that he wasn't switching out to Umbral Ice, but instead just waiting for Astral Fire to fall off and his MP to regenerate naturally. Which would dramatically lower dps as that does take quite a long time.
    Exactly ... all he did was spam Fire IV, then wait for his MP to regenerate and then start spamming Fire IV again.
    No rotation, no switching, no nothing ... only Fire IV all the way.
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  6. #2516
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaurie Lorhart
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Recently, queued in as my SCH into Antitower.

    I shield up, swap to cleric and start placing shadowflare as the tank runs to the mobs. He grabs them all and moves them just outside of shadowflare. I re-place it with swiftcast and continue.

    Second pull, I do the same thing, start placing shadowflare, he grabs the adds and runs off with them pulling them out. Again replace.

    This happens on the rest of the pulls to the first boss - at which point I ask "Why are you pulling them out of Shadowflare?" - "That was an accident." I just stay quiet but think, an accident on every pull?
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  7. #2517
    Player
    Rhodkr's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rhoden Kenshi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by RubyScarlett View Post
    It's roulette o'clock and I'm on my SCH for some quick runs, with my guy on PLD. 60 roulette and it's Alwaysreap. We have two bards, one who just met the min ilvl and is new and a decently geared one. It's a little slow, but nothing Selene can't solo-heal. We get a little over ambitious and make a big pull with the bees and the next set of mobs, but our dps is too low and my guys runs out of tank cool downs with too many final stings going off at once.
    The bees in Nevereap only final sting when their HP hits a certain percent, not at a certain time. So the bards AOEing probably set them off in the first place lol.

    I did a Satasha run a while ago on my alt, who is a sprout mrd. There was a mnk or a pug and an archer as the dps and a sch I think as the healer. The sch was having some connection issues, but that's fine thanks to the fairy, as long as they don't dc. I was pulling and making my marks on the monsters, the archer and pug are ignoring my marks and he archer begins running ahead of me and pulling monsters I didn't touch. I ask them to please attack the things I mark and to let me pull. The response? The pug pipes up and says 'LOL he's color blind.'

    Now I know I'm being trolled. So I stop tanking, I abide by the if you pull it, you tank it motto. When we get to the first boss, I stay outside because the healer dced and what do you know! The pug and archer pull the courl. I let myself get locked out and stay just long enough to see them wipe before I leave the dungeon and take the penalty. To this day, it remains the only time I'd ever left a dungeon.
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    Last edited by Rhodkr; 04-05-2016 at 12:33 AM. Reason: Word count

  8. #2518
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    Cnidarian's Avatar
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    Character
    Cnidaria Vaeriat
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Roshinu View Post
    Exactly ... all he did was spam Fire IV, then wait for his MP to regenerate and then start spamming Fire IV again.
    No rotation, no switching, no nothing ... only Fire IV all the way.
    That is impossible in the way Fire IV and Enochian works. To even cast Fire IV you have to have both Enochian and Astral Fire up. The way you just described it, I would say they were spamming Fire III and not Fire IV. I say this because while under Astral Fire you have 0 mp regen, you need to be in either Umbral Ice or neither for your mp to regenerate.
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  9. #2519
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Anavi Anael
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Recently, queued in as my SCH into Antitower.

    I shield up, swap to cleric and start placing shadowflare as the tank runs to the mobs. He grabs them all and moves them just outside of shadowflare. I re-place it with swiftcast and continue.

    Second pull, I do the same thing, start placing shadowflare, he grabs the adds and runs off with them pulling them out. Again replace.

    This happens on the rest of the pulls to the first boss - at which point I ask "Why are you pulling them out of Shadowflare?" - "That was an accident." I just stay quiet but think, an accident on every pull?
    Ugh, I have tanks do this to me all the time! At least we can recast our shadow flares, imagine being a ninja and using doton. Some tanks have told me, "I thought it was a mob move," but most tanks are mover tanks. You tell them to hold still, but "I gotta dodge the AoEs." Poor poor melee.
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  10. #2520
    Player
    Roshinu's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Roshinu Mikazuki
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    as I said, my BLM has been stuck on 50 since 1.0, and back then it was a totally different job, so idk about needing Enochian for Fire IV
    But this doesn't change the fact, that the only spell that he was actively casting was Fire IV ... Until he ran out of MP ... Which he would regenerate by just standing there, not moving (most likely letting Astral Fire run out).
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