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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    That's exactly what it's about. What are you talking about?! You don't like the way the weapons look. You would prefer that they look different.
    Once again words are put in my mouth for me. Gee, thanks?

    The weapons aren't consistent with the art direction, rubbing some people the wrong way in the process <-- that's exactly what this is about. This has nothing to do with me. Even though people try to spin it as such all the time (because that's all they got).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Once again words are put in my mouth for me. Gee, thanks?

    The weapons aren't consistent with the art direction, rubbing some people the wrong way in the process <-- that's exactly what this is about. This has nothing to do with me. Even though people try to spin it as such all the time (because that's all they got).
    Again, you never really ever responded to my reason as to why they don't fit with the Eorzean art direction. These aren't Eorzean weapons, they're weapons from the Lord of the Inferno Ifrit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Again, you never really ever responded to my reason as to why they don't fit with the Eorzean art direction. These aren't Eorzean weapons, they're weapons from the Lord of the Inferno Ifrit.
    thank you, these are weapons that are taken directly from a glowing beasts body, not crafted by a mindless drone who only likes the way steel and copper looks on weapons.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Again, you never really ever responded to my reason as to why they don't fit with the Eorzean art direction. These aren't Eorzean weapons, they're weapons from the Lord of the Inferno Ifrit.
    Not Eorzean, the art direction of FFXIV. Every item has to be kept within certain artistic boundaries. Otherwise the direction becomes inconsistent and detached. No game wants that to happen, and no, it is not common for companies to change their art direction in the same game. Between different games, sure. All you will have is a bunch of artistic nonsense where nothing fits anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Not Eorzean, the art direction of FFXIV. Every item has to be kept within certain artistic boundaries. Otherwise the direction becomes inconsistent and detached. No game wants that to happen, and no, it is not common for companies to change their art direction in the same game. Between different games, sure. All you will have is a bunch of artistic nonsense where nothing fits anywhere.
    You do realize that all of the current crafted gear comes from only within the confines of Eorzea right? Eorzea is only one continent with 6 major cities on it, 3 of which we don't have access to (Sharlayan, Ishgard and Ala Mhigo). All of the current artistic direction comes from one of those cities on the same continent. It is decidedly Eorzean. The only reason it is the only artistic direction we're familiar with is because it's the only one we've been exposed to aside from the Garleans who we have had limited interaction with. So people are mistaking the art direction of the game with the Eorzean style of equipment because honestly it's all we've really seen and used.

    Even the Garlean art direction is drastically different from that of Eorzea and hardly realistic. As I stated before their armor has a much more noble and military look to it and is often comprised mainly of the colors black, red or silver. They have gun-hybrid weapons, something we would not expect from an Eorzean weapon.

    There are also other continents out there which we haven't even come across yet. I'm willing to bet that their artistic direction is drastically different from Eorzea's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    You do realize that all of the current crafted gear comes from only within the confines of Eorzea right?
    Like I said in my first sentence, I don't mean the region-specific art direction but the overall art direction of the game as a whole. There are multiple layers and not just one. Every item no matter where it originates from should follow these basic principles to not make them feel detached from the rest of the game.

    Within these boundaries you can pick pretty much any theme and style you want, be it ifrit's horn or near eastern scimitar.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 10-02-2011 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    You do realize that all of the current crafted gear comes from only within the confines of Eorzea right? Eorzea is only one continent with 6 major cities on it, 3 of which we don't have access to (Sharlayan, Ishgard and Ala Mhigo). All of the current artistic direction comes from one of those cities on the same continent.
    Just a bit of a nit-picky word choices here about the geography of Hydaelyn and Eorzea;

    Eorzea isn't the continent. Eorzea is the country which consists of the city-states Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, Ul'dah, Ala Mhigo, Ishgard and Sharlayan. Regions Eorzea covers are La Noscea, the northern part of Vylbrand (O'Ghomoro is still unclear on whether it is the region's name or the volcano's), and in the continent of Aldenard; The Black Shroud, Thanalan, Mor Dhona, Coerthas, Gyr Abania, Xelphatol, Dravania and Paglth'an as well as numerous small islands. Land masses which Eorzea expands over are the island Vylbrand as well as the continent Aldenard.

    So just be sure to make Eorzea a country, as Eorzea is not the continent. It's easy to mix them up, so just be wary.

    Otherwise, I agree with you, Arcell. On nearly all your posts. And those who somehow think that a higher diety's weapon drops will resemble those which are crafted by a mortal's hand are truly ignorant of the hierarchy which surrounds the typical balance of high-end dieties with low-end mortals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Not Eorzean, the art direction of FFXIV. Every item has to be kept within certain artistic boundaries. Otherwise the direction becomes inconsistent and detached. No game wants that to happen, and no, it is not common for companies to change their art direction in the same game. Between different games, sure. All you will have is a bunch of artistic nonsense where nothing fits anywhere.
    The game is undergoing a complete overhaul right now, the community said there was not enough colour in the game, and everything was really bland, and this is the start of the changes to that.

    Also you say the weapons are not eorzean, but is ifrit directly from eorzea nope, he is summoned which could be why the weapons look differant, there are pages and pages of possible lore they could put into why all weapons dont look the same, or in FFXI are abyssea weapons bad designing because the dont look like there from Vana'diel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    The game is undergoing a complete overhaul right now, the community said there was not enough colour in the game, and everything was really bland, and this is the start of the changes to that.
    Okay? Does this mean there is not even a slight possibility that they could perhaps go a little overboard in their crusade, and as such need the community to point out that they are taking things too far?

    Expecting perfection right from the beginning is the flaw of this community. We do not criticize their inventions because we want them to fail, we criticize them because we want the game to become as good as it can be. Not as good as they can get it the first try around.

    "The aggro icon is a bit too large." "The monster sizes are a bit too large." This is a continuation of that, and to tell you the truth, even though some people didn't "mind" the rather bulky aggro icon I find it much more appealing now that it has been slightly modified.
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