Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[Whiteroom]

I raid, and I think that the current relic stage is a huge step up from previous.

I'd like to see more substance of the whole thing (a more involved story, challenging content) - but I get that isn't really what the relic is about. Accepting that, I think this level of grind in 2.3 is appropriate.



That is impressive I am almost done my 2nd 210, so four is a good feat for sure. Most of my friends are still finishing their first.

I definitely agree that running alex over and over is crazy, it was definitely the fastest way to farm the pieces, but also the fastest way for me to uninstall. I did about 30 A1N and 20 A4N runs in total. Other than that for both relics, I've done roulettes/beast tribes/hunts/generic tome rewards.

Yeah, I really wish there was a class relevant story to the relics, but that would be a huge resource investment. I guess I wish they had the budget for it...

I fully understand what it is, a tool for the devs to keep old content going, I would love it if they could be a little less blatant about it though.

Tbh, the 210 step wasn't as bad as I originally thought it would be, and the ability to do it while leveling other classes as well is a big bonus to the new relic chain. I can level via beast tribes,( or fates for the first step), or work toward my tank mounts in Gordias, and that takes.a huge negative of the first chain away from me.

Also, I'm fine with Raid weapons being more powerful, but I really don't think the Tomestone weapon should be as powerful as the relic. Something like 240/245/250 for Tome/Relic/Raid, or even 240/243/245 if the other numbers are to big for people.

[Ibi]

With all this talk about relic vs raiding, I'd like to know what radiers think nowadays about how the relic should progress

I have pretty mixed feelings about it, but it's hard to separate out the sour taste that the i210 stage left in my mouth from everything associated with raiding in 3.0/3.1 that left a sour taste in my mouth.

On the one hand, SE have stated outright that their intention is that the anima weapons won't (with the exception of 3.1, where they've been clear that they feel like they made mistakes with the itemization of weapons) be as strong as the best weapons you can get from clearing the hardest content.

On the other hand, it's clear that there are going to be times when the anima weapon may be the superior choice if you're not on the cutting edge of clearing the raid content.

On the other other hand, the anima weapon, due almost entirely to the i210 step, is a substantial amount of additional work for what's a very marginal increase.

Personally, I took a break from XIV for over a month leading up to 3.2, so I'm lagging behind. I'm working on mine, is as much as I'm doing beast tribe quests for the Grade IV materia anyway and whatever poetics and esoterics I'm earning are going into it (and I'll be doing the CT quest weekly, now that that's been added), but I'm not going out of my way to do additional content to get through the third step.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

At the end of the day it doesn't matter, There are like 5 different weapon choices depending on how much you play or how you want to play the game. Esoteric weapon, Lore Weapon, Primal weapons, Relic Weapons, and Raid weapons. Just pick one and stop complaining. What we do know is in 3.3 the relic will be able to be upgraded without raiding.. What we don't know is whether or not you can upgrade the lore weapon in 3.3 without raiding, so theres a bit of a risk by picking the easiest option. Just pick the weapon you want and go get it.

Asking SE to shoehorn everyone into the same gear path will make the game less fun, not more fun. Yes lore weapons are easy to get, they are there for people that can't play that much... Raid weapons and Relic weapons are for people with a bit more time to play. I chose to get 2 relic weapons and use the 2000 lore tomes for armor. That's my choice, doesn't mean everyone has to do the same thing.

[Kaurie]

At the end of the day it doesn't matter, There are like 5 different weapon choices depending on how much you play or how you want to play the game. Esoteric weapon, Lore Weapon, Primal weapons, Relic Weapons, and Raid weapons. Just pick one and stop complaining. What we do know is in 3.3 the relic will be able to be upgraded without raiding.. What we don't know is whether or not you can upgrade the lore weapon in 3.3 without raiding, so theres a bit of a risk by picking the easiest option. Just pick the weapon you want and go get it.

Asking SE to shoehorn everyone into the same gear path will make the game less fun, not more fun. Yes lore weapons are easy to get, they are there for people that can't play that much... Raid weapons and Relic weapons are for people with a bit more time to play. I chose to get 2 relic weapons and use the 2000 lore tomes for armor. That's my choice, doesn't mean everyone has to do the same thing.

lol did you just quote esoteric weapon 0.o

There are 3 weapons really, raid, lore, relic. The others are just stepping stones.

[Whiteroom]

lol did you just quote esoteric weapon 0.o

There are 3 weapons really, raid, lore, relic. The others are just stepping stones.

Ikr, may as well count the Doman weapns.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

lol did you just quote esoteric weapon 0.o

There are 3 weapons really, raid, lore, relic. The others are just stepping stones.

outside of savage name one piece of content that can't be beaten with a esoteric weapon? I'll wait...... Yes, eso is the easiest but weakest option but should also be the first wpn you pick up once you hit lvl 60, its still a valid weapon.

EDIT: I wouldnt be surprise if in 3.3 the next warring triad weapon is ilvl 230, then everyone will be saying "ah man, the lore weapons is crap. Totally not worth it bro, primal weapon is easier"

[Kaurie]

outside of savage name one piece of content that can't be beaten with a esoteric weapon? I'll wait...... Yes, eso is the easiest but weakest option but should also be the first wpn you pick up once you hit lvl 60, its still a valid weapon.

I mean if we want to exclude content, we can just say all the weapons are valid. let's include law, poetics, soldiery, shiva, etc. etc.. I mean they can do some content.

I can even do the current expert roulettes with an i90 weapon if I wanted - and succeed.

EDIT: I wouldnt be surprise if in 3.3 the next warring triad weapon is ilvl 230, then everyone will be saying "ah man, the lore weapons is crap. Totally not worth it bro, primal weapon is easier"

Yes, every patch they release new ways to obtain the current/past ilvl weapon either faster or easier and/or add higher ilvl weapons that is the new one to get. That is how they've been doing it for years and is the nature of vertical progression.

EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if in the next patch they added more content and possibly 2 dungeons

[Mindy_Macready]

EDIT: I wouldnt be surprise if in 3.3 the next warring triad weapon is ilvl 230, then everyone will be saying "ah man, the lore weapons is crap. Totally not worth it bro, primal weapon is easier"

Maybe if the lore weapon required 20000+ esoterics and law your analogy would actually make sense.

[Ebonwings]

lol I haven't even finish part 3 yet xD only have 56/80 so far.... been slacking off on relic since the release date...

[Whiteroom]

outside of savage name one piece of content that can't be beaten with a esoteric weapon? I'll wait...... Yes, eso is the easiest but weakest option but should also be the first wpn you pick up once you hit lvl 60, its still a valid weapon.

EDIT: I wouldnt be surprise if in 3.3 the next warring triad weapon is ilvl 230, then everyone will be saying "ah man, the lore weapons is crap. Totally not worth it bro, primal weapon is easier"

It doesn't matter what can and can't be beat with it, it is a previous tier weapon, you don't put it on the same level as the new version of it. That is the Lore weapons place.

Also next triad will be at least 235.