level 60 dungeon roulette fair to have Aetherochemical Research Facility?

[Morningstar1337]

Fair enough, but I still find it unlikely because only Mentor and Guildhest roulette are the only ones where the party size is variable. The former was only recently added and they are but 2 out of 9 Roulettes (Expert, 50, 60, Trials, MSQ, Leveling and Frontlines are the other 7). And that by your logic (ARF is a dungeons at the end at the MSQ, thererfore it should be placed in MS roulette) then the Light Party sized versions of Ifrit, Titan and Garuda don't belong in Leveling (In fact I rememebr there being a thread where its OP complained about that) but in Trials, because that is what they are. SE doesn't seem to like to having duty roulettes where the the instances are made for different party sizes, regardless of how much sense it would've made.

[Miakisaki]

And that by your logic (ARF is a dungeons at the end at the MSQ, thererfore it should be placed in MS roulette) then the Light Party sized versions of Ifrit, Titan and Garuda don't belong in Leveling (In fact I rememebr there being a thread where its OP complained about that) but in Trials, because that is what they are.

Sure, why not? I see nothing wrong with moving story primals to Trial roulette. People who queue for leveling roulette then have a much better chance of rolling a dungeon where they can get xp in as well as the roulette bonus.

[Ashkendor]

Sure, why not? I see nothing wrong with moving story primals to Trial roulette. People who queue for leveling roulette then have a much better chance of rolling a dungeon where they can get xp in as well as the roulette bonus.

When you get a trial in leveling roulette, the roulette bonus is adjusted accordingly though.

I love getting a story trial in Leveling roulette. 3 mins for several hundred thousand exp.

[Aura_Shurifon]

I'm not against having ARF in the lvl60 roulette, but the RNG is awful, in 13 day straight, I had 13 Antitower, and 12 ARF !! This is getting really old, always doing the same instance >__<

[Culfinrandir]

I'm not against having ARF in the lvl60 roulette, but the RNG is awful, in 13 day straight, I had 13 Antitower, and 12 ARF !! This is getting really old, always doing the same instance >__<

It almost seems to default to ARF now if all members of the group have already cleared it. I've never seen a bonus message so we're not helping new people through, just running it with those who've already cleared it.

[randysquirrel]

Best part of dungeon is the boss who turns into all the old coil bosses. reminds me of the times I faced those bosses for the first time

Melusine still my fave, and still remember the night we finally cleared her after all those shrieks and people shouting "PETRIFACTION!" over TS lol

[Culfinrandir]

Thinking about this last night I wondered why it isn't in the Levelling Roulette given that it's part of the storyline (I assume it still is anyway). It's a Light Party duty so has no place in Main Scenario but definitely would be better suited to Levelling.

[Galborion]

Thinking about this last night I wondered why it isn't in the Levelling Roulette given that it's part of the storyline (I assume it still is anyway). It's a Light Party duty so has no place in Main Scenario but definitely would be better suited to Levelling.

It is lvl 60 dungeon. Why it should be in leveling if you can't level up anymore?

[Culfinrandir]

It is lvl 60 dungeon. Why it should be in leveling if you can't level up anymore?

It's a part of the storyline that needs to be done, every other 4-man storyline dungeon is in the Levelling Roulette & ARF stands out. Theoretically Levelling Roulette could be termed Storyline Dungeon Roulette & it would leave true lvl60 duties, which are intended to be optional content (although we all know they're not), in their own category. Currently once ARF pops the vast majority of players will drop immediately because it's in lvl60 roulette & exceptionally rare to get someone in it who needs it for the storyline, thus holding bonus tomes.

[Morningstar1337]

It's a part of the storyline that needs to be done, every other 4-man storyline dungeon is in the Levelling Roulette & ARF stands out. Theoretically Levelling Roulette could be termed Storyline Dungeon Roulette & it would leave true lvl60 duties, which are intended to be optional content (although we all know they're not), in their own category. Currently once ARF pops the vast majority of players will drop immediately because it's in lvl60 roulette & exceptionally rare to get someone in it who needs it for the storyline, thus holding bonus tomes.

There is alreadya Storyline Roulette though, also Snowcloak, Keeper of the Lake and Antitower are also MSQ dungeons, while Aurum Vale, Dzemael Darkhold, Cutter's Cry and Dusk Vigil are optional Dungeons