Novice Network/New Adventurer Suggestions

[MaisonLooi]

Please address this:

The Novice Network is just full of spam. I haven't helped a New Adventurer without actively seeking.
(Could be solved by allowing New Players to be partied with active Mentors. Us Mentors had to go through windows of disclaimers, we know the score. Having said this, if a Mentor is displaying Mentor status, that Mentor should have a New Adventurer assigned. If a Mentor wishes to stop helping out, then the Mentor should turn off his status, like an Uber driver.)

The Mentor roulette only benefits the Mentor.
(There is already a nice lv 20 bonus for a Mentor and New Adventurer party, could we perhaps make the roulette more relevant for New Adventuers and not Mentors)

At the end of the day, I love helping others out. I don't require a reward, the adventure itself is a reward. Being a Mentor should be about helping others explore this game we have all come to love.

[EveK]

Hopefully it will get better with changes already planned (like more inclusive qualifications for new adventurers that should ensure there is a much more healthy presence of new adventurers to occupy the channels' mentors more prone to ... distraction. That said, if it's actual spam, the offenders should certainly be reported and kicked.

As for the mentor roulette...it's not ENTIRELY to benefit the mentor. I know I filled a slot recently for a new player's guildhest with the thing.

So...hang it there. It will get better. =)

[MaisonLooi]

Hopefully it will get better with changes already planned (like more inclusive qualifications for new adventurers that should ensure there is a much more healthy presence of new adventurers to occupy the channels' mentors more prone to ... distraction. That said, if it's actual spam, the offenders should certainly be reported and kicked.

On my server, the Mentor to Adventurer ratio is like 5:1 around 100/100 Mentors maybe 26/412 New Adventurers. It looks more like the trade channel from WoW than anything else.

As for the mentor roulette...it's not ENTIRELY to benefit the mentor. I know I filled a slot recently for a new player's guildhest with the thing.

So...hang it there. It will get better. =)

I feel like it only benefits myself and other already experienced players.

[SinSiew79]

what I'd like to see, as someone who is on her 2nd char, and have been playing since beta, is an option to either never join TNN, or just disable it, period, cause its madly annoying to have to ask for someone to kick me whenever im on my 2nd char and zone in/out of places.

[EveK]

Being able to turn off the auto rejoin is coming soon. In the meantime, you can adjust your chat filter settings to hide all of its messages (two settings: one for the chat, one for its announcements).

[Niwashi]

Hopefully it will get better with changes already planned (like more inclusive qualifications for new adventurers

It's more like they're essentially eliminating the whole concept of new adventurers, since anyone can take that title and it'll be impossible to know who is actually new. I don't see how that's going to improve anything, at least not while the NN is segregated the way it is.

I think it's time for them to give up on the Novice Network entirely and just add an open /Advice channel that lets anyone ask advice and anyone give advice, without trying to segregate and certify the participants. It would probably have been a better idea to begin with. (Unfortunately, I don't see that as likely to happen.)

[EveK]

I understand the information about the future plans is not yet very clear, but our understandings seem to vary greatly. Based on the translation I read of Naoki Yoshida's response here on the forums, it will not at all be "anyone can take" the new adventurer status. It will simply be more inclusive but still rule out the more experienced players.

I'll look up the exact quote for you...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...95#post3628695

"“New Beginner” status will remain until players complete the main scenario quest “Before the Dawn” and when their play time exceeds 168 hours."

So that's a single week of playtime and getting to the point where they can touch the Heavensward content.

[Niwashi]

"“New Beginner” status will remain until players complete the main scenario quest “Before the Dawn” and when their play time exceeds 168 hours."

So that's a single week of playtime and getting to the point where they can touch the Heavensward content.

So all ARR players are treated as "New". That's two years worth of content. I've been playing avidly ever since ARR released, yet this would still count me as "New" simply because I've chosen not to register Heavensward, so haven't done the leadup quests to it. They're just treating all players of the base game as if they were newcomers regardless of how new or experienced they actually are.

(That is, unless the "and" from that quote is a mis-translation. If they actually mean until you either reach “Before the Dawn” or exceed 168 hours, that's quite a bit better. I still think 168 hours is way too long to consider someone a newcomer, though. Calling it a single week's worth of playtime glosses over the fact that at a typical couple hours per night, that's three months worth of playtime for someone who plays every day. The current 40 hours is a far more realistic measure.)

[MaisonLooi]

So all ARR players are treated as "New". That's two years worth of content. I've been playing avidly ever since ARR released, yet this would still count me as "New" simply because I've chosen not to register Heavensward, so haven't done the leadup quests to it. They're just treating all players of the base game as if they were newcomers regardless of how new or experienced they actually are.

From what I remember, you could self remove the sprout icon "New Adventurer" before, don't know if you can still do that.
As for your progress already, I think that status only applies to newly created characters.

From what I see, they will try to make newly made characters, new players, and the ARR experience much smoother.

[Niwashi]

From what I remember, you could self remove the sprout icon "New Adventurer" before, don't know if you can still do that.

Sure, you can turn your own off, but that doesn't mean you can expect other people to have turned theirs off when it no longer applies. Therefore with the proposed changes, seeing the sprout icon on somebody might possibly mean they're new or might just as possibly mean they've been around for ages but never turned the status off. In other words, it ends up meaning nothing at all.