Alchemist recipes?

[Bayohne]

How will we be making paralyzing potions (for example) without paralyzing powder, jellyfish cnida, or black scorpions? Are a bunch of the things we make just being fully removed from the game?

Black scorpions (used to make paralyzing powder) were added to the Gathering list under Spearfishing (in multiple areas), so those are still available and players will be able to make paralyzing potions from them. While jellyfish cnida is being removed, there are alternate ways to make that same resulting item, at the same level (ALC27).

Something to consider, when the list says "items no longer used in the new recipes," it means just that - new recipes. Old recipes will continue to function as normal.

[Jim]

Thanks bayohne!

[LuxLex]

Black scorpions (used to make paralyzing powder) were added to the Gathering list under Spearfishing (in multiple areas), so those are still available and players will be able to make paralyzing potions from them. While jellyfish cnida is being removed, there are alternate ways to make that same resulting item, at the same level (ALC27).

Something to consider, when the list says "items no longer used in the new recipes," it means just that - new recipes. Old recipes will continue to function as normal.

Ah, okay, thanks. So you won't be removing that whole list of items. Thanks so much for making this more clear. I was really confused.

[LemmingKingXXX]

will we still receive various moraines from leves despite them no longer being obtainable through drops?

[Rutelor]

Ah, okay, thanks. So you won't be removing that whole list of items. Thanks so much for making this more clear. I was really confused.

With all due respect to the developers and their ambassadors in the forums office--not the least among them, the very cool Bayohne--the choice of words was truly and unnecessarily confusing.

Think about it:

items no longer used in the new recipes

Does "no longer" really apply to items in recipes that haven't ever been around, and won't be until a future date?

Unless, of course it refers to a past and/or current action which will cease, the use of "no longer" makes no sense. Is it that the "new recipes" will yield "old items," and certain materials--necessary before--will not be needed to create those items if you use the new recipes? Will they still be needed if you use the old recipes for the same items? In that case, the fact that both new and old recipes for the same items will coexist for a while, only adds to the confusion, necessary though this might be.

I know this kind of language trouble comes when many-layered things are managed simultaneously by many, many responsible parties. Besides, we're all aware of the gigantic overhaul this game is receiving. So, I'm not making a negative criticism... but I was left confused by it (as you can see above, still am,) and so were many others.

R

[Nakiamiie]

Something to consider, when the list says "items no longer used in the new recipes," it means just that - new recipes. Old recipes will continue to function as normal.

But it was said old recipes will be removed in another update, maybe 1.20 or 1.21 perhaps? Does that mean we'll have to get used to the new recipes and eventually some things crafted only through old recipes will also disappear?