Real-money trade: The real problem

[Reinha]

And if you didn't need millions of gil to buy a simple glamour no one would be temped by RMT in the first place.

The simple glamours don't cost millions if you buy or gather the raw materials and find a crafter to make it for you. Some people just can't be bothered to do even that and would rather cheat. This causes unproductive people to have the buying power of a veteran crafter. Because of the increased amount of capable buyers the items that are listed for a reasonable price sell extremely fast, leaving only the high priced ones. That becomes the new typical price. It means legitimate players have to work even harder to be able to buy what they want. RMT abusers are to blame for the huge prices and they deserve no sympathy for their "temptation". Ban them all, I say!

[Austin_The_Addict]

Look, I get what you all are saying, but I'd rather blacklist ever spammer I see than block tells. I get spam tells so god damn much that if I were to have a chat log especially for tells I would have to scroll through it several times a minute. This means that if I were to get a useful tell, for the FC, a friend, someone who needs help, whatever, it would probably go unnoticed. I'm on a relatively small server and still have received 3 tells in a row and receiving ~9 in less than a few minutes. I can't scroll through a tell chat log every single minute I get a tell. Again, I would rather blacklist every spammer I get then have to filter out tells that may actually be beneficial to me or them.

[Moqi]

The simple glamours don't cost millions if you buy or gather the raw materials and find a crafter to make it for you. Some people just can't be bothered to do even that and would rather cheat. This causes unproductive people to have the buying power of a veteran crafter. Because of the increased amount of capable buyers the items that are listed for a reasonable price sell extremely fast, leaving only the high priced ones. That becomes the new typical price. It means legitimate players have to work even harder to be able to buy what they want. RMT abusers are to blame for the huge prices and they deserve no sympathy for their "temptation". Ban them all, I say!

If the players don't find any find in the legitimate way SE has designed the game I would look for ways to improve their experience so they don't feel the need to buy gil to have fun instead of simply blaming everything on them and pretend the game is fine.

[AlphaFox]

And if you didn't need millions of gil to buy a simple glamour no one would be temped by RMT in the first place.

True but as pointed out when people buy gil they are more willing to pay the over priced goods which in turn have people selling it post for insane amounts as well. If RMT was gone eventually people would have to keep dropping prices till it either finally sells or it gets so over saturated with items they have no choice but to lower to beat out everyone else who is selling.

[Dumbledoremd]

Give us filters so we can only get tells from friends or who ever we choose

[Reinha]

If the players don't find any find in the legitimate way SE has designed the game I would look for ways to improve their experience so they don't feel the need to buy gil to have fun instead of simply blaming everything on them and pretend the game is fine.

Somehow I doubt they have zero legitimate ways to obtain glamours. Are you saying it's impossible to find crafters to craft things for you somehow? Then how did the glamours end up on the MB? Someone is clearly able to make them.

We have Gold Saucer gear, dungeon gear, starting gear, seasonal gear, normal raid gear, trial weapons, fate gear, tomestone gear, quest reward gear, Novice Hall gear, hunt token gear, Grand Company gear, pvp gear and even Mog Station gear easily obtainable for people who want to dress fabulous without much effort. Crafted glamour gear is the only gear on top of savage and relic gear that is difficult to obtain. What do expect SE to do to improve the experience of gil buyers? Let people get every glamour (instead of almost every glamour) in the game without the help of crafters and make crafting irrelevant in the process? How about no.

The gil buyers are the reason we get spammed and they also contribute to sky high prices. I don't see why we should worry about their play experience when they are in their greed actively making it worse for themselves but also for others for the sake convenience.

[Moqi]

Somehow I doubt they have zero legitimate ways to obtain glamours. Are you saying it's impossible to find crafters to craft things for you somehow?

No, I am saying it's not worth the effort, and I am not gonna blame buyers for wanting to have fun without having to deal with the contrived way SE made endgame crafting, especially for a simple piece of glamour. If they hadn't made things so rare, and gil so useless anywhere else, things would be different (like they are for basically all recipies below 50).

[Anienai]

On Balmung they usually spam /say in the 3 major cities. On Exodus they spam /say and /tell.

Exodus has some serious gold buying problems.

[Waeksyn]

There has been a never ending parade of these kinds of threads. It would be very easy to block RMT tells just by adding optional filters (such as limiting tells only from players of a certain level).

The lack of response from SE to provide this simple improvement proves that SE would rather have the revenue from RMT subscriptions than address the issue. SE gets more revenue by nuking RMT accounts, who then just open new accounts. It is in their interest to keep the status quo. We will never see SE add any feature that limits the profitable turnover of RMT accounts.

[Ashkendor]

No, I am saying it's not worth the effort, and I am not gonna blame buyers for wanting to have fun without having to deal with the contrived way SE made endgame crafting, especially for a simple piece of glamour. If they hadn't made things so rare, and gil so useless anywhere else, things would be different (like they are for basically all recipies below 50).

By this logic, raiders should have a way to just get their gear more easily than having to actually learn the fights because it's "not worth the effort". Face it, glamour isn't simple or unimportant to most players, otherwise they wouldn't be willing to go to the lengths they do in order to have their character look a certain way. It's actually serious business for a wide cross-section of players and there are very few that just don't care what their character looks like. Just look at the number of threads we have to show off character design/glamour screenshots and look at how busy those threads stay on a daily basis, even for the less populated races.