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  1. #21
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    Kabzy's Avatar
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Schs need tons of macros, macroing the fairys heal into your own heals, macroing this, macroing that, but once you do all that sch turns into a healing mad house. I think I have 7-8 macros.

    Sch is in a big place, whm is supporting the sch, but whm can main heal if sch want's to do dmg all the time (im a sch who only likes to heal).
    I know it's a little off topic, but there's just so much to disagree with this. Firstly, macros may be your style but please don't promote them as the way the job is played. Macros give SCHs a false sense of accomplishment, but to get the most out of any job, you'll want to manage it completely yourself, macros really are NOT the way forward.

    Secondly, yes it is true that SCHs are most desired for raids, however that does not make them a main healer in the sense that the OP is talking about. A SCH is only as good as their co-healer; If your WHM/AST is a great healer, you have a better window to DPS, if not you'll be supporting with heals more often than necessary. Absolutely no raid composition will make SCH the main healer when they have the best tools for sustained DPS.
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  2. #22
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I do second kabzy a lot
    Macro for the scholar ?
    You means those horrible macro that locked your fairy reducing her action ? Oh hell no !
    I do not play SCH with macro and still do a great job (yeah the basic pre-casting and fairy pre-positionning)

    The only 2 macro i keep on my SCH come from my smn
    Auto target of target eyes for an eyes
    And auto target focus virus
    Which help a lot to put them while healing

    But 7 macro healing ? Huh really ?

    ...

    And yeah i don't know à single static that will put the SCH as main heal
    It burn too much mana to keep a group healthy
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  3. #23
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    I do second kabzy a lot
    Macro for the scholar ?
    You means those horrible macro that locked your fairy reducing her action ? Oh hell no !
    I do not play SCH with macro and still do a great job (yeah the basic pre-casting and fairy pre-positionning)

    The only 2 macro i keep on my SCH come from my smn
    Auto target of target eyes for an eyes
    And auto target focus virus
    Which help a lot to put them while healing

    But 7 macro healing ? Huh really ?

    ...

    And yeah i don't know à single static that will put the SCH as main heal
    It burn too much mana to keep a group healthy
    I use an entire 2 macros on SCH. A summon macro that puts all of eos' abilities on crosshotbar one, and a summon II macro that places all of selenes abilities on crosshotbar one.

    I always get baffled by SCH who macro everything.
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  4. #24
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    You also know whm uses wand and shield, and that sometimes (often at my level) has better stats than the current staff in the same level range, yes?

    I'm nowhere near the level to be able to provide a sufficient amount experience to help you make a decision. However, from what I have learned about what's to come is that whm and sch support each other. When the synergy is there between them, they do absolutely amazing things. It's ridiculous to say that either of them "main" heal.

    I understand aesthetics plays an important role in the decision making process people have when choosing their roles, and their respective class/job, but understand that a healer's main weapon whether staff/wand or grimroire only serve to strengthen the abilities and spells in their utility belt. You're not going to be hitting to many mobs with them.
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  5. #25
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    Huxley Brynn
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    Goblin
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    You're not going to be hitting to many mobs with them.
    I finally auto attacked something with my AST. You just backhand the Sucker. Pretty satisfying actually.
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  6. #26
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    Zari Lutus
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    I use an entire 2 macros on SCH. A summon macro that puts all of eos' abilities on crosshotbar one, and a summon II macro that places all of selenes abilities on crosshotbar one.

    I always get baffled by SCH who macro everything.
    The SCHs who macro everything are SCHs who dont actually know how to properly play their class and try to play it like WHM and want to see big healing numbers
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  7. #27
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    Brown Sugar
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    Monk Lv 62
    I use a bunch of macros on scholar.

    - A macro that combines energy drain and Aetherflow so that I'll attempt to drain a selected target if I have stack left. Otherwise I can deselect and it'll jump straight into aetherflow.
    -2 macros ( 1 per fairy) to swap out hotbar skills depending on which fairy I summon
    - Virus that works with a priority of Focus target > targets target > target
    -A macro with place and heel on the same button
    -a macro for shadow flare so that I can place them under a target
    - the same macro for sacred soil with an additional line that has Eos use Fey Covenant ( magic defense boost)
    - A macro that has Eos use Fey covenant when I cast Succor
    - A macro for selene's Silent Dusk with the priority Focus target > targets target > target
    - am embrace macro with priority targets target > target


    I macroed fey covenant to two of my skills since I often used them together. I've still got all the fairy skills on their own buttons though just in case I need to use them alone.
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  8. #28
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    Ritza Solair
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 79
    Can't lend much info here since I haven't done many 8man runs as my only heal class (WHM) but for the few I have done without my SCH friend is more u'r both Main healer just u switch by priority (does the MT need a constant healer & for how long or did that group of DD's just eat that AoE while u'r co-healers on the MT)

    & once I figured out how to make the "Target's Target" marco I made all my dmg move (& cross-class dmg moves, so Virus) have that as main function then a 2nd comand for attacking my target if I actually had to target a mob made my time healing the Tank wonderful cause I could just Cleric & use Aero3 (or Stone3) on his target lowering chance of arrgo grabing while letting me keep their HP easyer to see (save Focus for bosses that use Petrafication or move I need to know turn away from)
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  9. #29
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    At least
    They are a little bit better that SCH who let their fairy in auto mode and state that they can do the healing themself...
    And you see EoS using whispering dawn when everyone is 100% life...

    And you just cry and wonder why the fate paired you with that...
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  10. #30
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    Priya Eridian
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 90
    The word you're all looking for is "micro." A good SCH wants to "micro" their fairy. It tends to be used as shorthand for micromanage.

    "Macros" are the bad things that remove skill queues. Macroing skills should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
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    Last edited by Priya; 03-25-2016 at 01:56 AM.

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