Lore, FFXI or FFXIV

[Keramory]

What bothers me too about the primals is the very uneven amount of lore (as little they give) between them. Shiva has an entire saga after her and ifrit.. Well he's just angry.

I said I'm staying away from gameplay but I will say the massiveness of ffxi and having to run everywhere played a huge part in my opinion in its vastness. I easily felt overwhelmed (in a good and bad way) and every bit of story had more impact. I felt small. Every monster my level could almost kill me... Let alone story content where I needed people desperately. I was an adventurer! Eventually a hero! Not some over powered god like Ffxiv.

As for the cities, I think they did them near perfect and different from one another. Juneo being.. Woah. Ishgard just fails to me.

The beast men were scary and ... An actual race of creatures! There's nothing of notice with these beast men. They went the right way in 1.0 then just dropped the ball. I want to see a beastman city I have to infiltrate!

[Berethos]

What bothers me too about the primals is the very uneven amount of lore (as little they give) between them. Shiva has an entire saga after her and ifrit.. Well he's just angry.

I believe much of how the lore is uneven is down to the place in the story the Primals occupy - they are more deconstructions of deities than actual deities, as often as the stories that involve them are centered on the faith and beliefs and current status of the culture that births their current form. For each of those cultures we get a fair amount of exposure, even if we don't get much background on the summoned being itself.

Even with Shiva, who has one of the most fleshed out backgrounds of just who served as the inspiration, is more about the beliefs of Ysale and the heretics and the manipulation or action/inaction of certain dragons than it is about a deity-like being.

So the Avatars themselves do seem more interesting, because they occupy a different place in the story...a higher tier of sorts, due to being actual deities.