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    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Umm......Virus and Eye for an Eye are great utility.
    "Useful in the specific case that you have an AST healer and no SMN DD buddy" is just barely more useful than "for one specific attack in one dungeon".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Some gaze checks are time of use (end of cast), some are time of animation (or perhaps indistinguishably shortly before; in any of these cases, you would need to be looking away beforehand to ensure it's registered server-side). If there is a gaze attack in Heavensward that isn't end of cast, I'm not remembering it right now.
    The first boss in Amdapor City HM happens at the time of damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    "Useful in the specific case that you have an AST healer and no SMN DD buddy" is just barely more useful than "for one specific attack in one dungeon".
    Eye for and Eye is always useful and normal Virus is useful on things that don't need INT down. All of that applies even when you have both SMN and a SCH. Now Physick on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    normal Virus is useful on things that don't need INT down. All of that applies even when you have both SMN and a SCH.
    On a single mob, Virus can only be applied once every 60s. At 90s cooldown, two users are the strict upper limit for "useful", so those two users might as well be the ones with the Super version, or otherwise the WHM, so that we don't lock them out of being able to use their own Virus at times of their choosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    Eye for and Eye is always useful and normal Virus is useful on things that don't need INT down. All of that applies even when you have both SMN and a SCH. Now Physick on the other hand...
    Physick can be good if you are silly like me and stack Mind Materia for those 1000+ Physick heals. *shrug*

    I will agree that E4E is always good however Virus should only be taken for heavy hitters like bosses such as for BJ's Dbl Rocket Punch.
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