Additional Kagoshima Producer Letter LIVE Questions Answered (Updated Irregularly)

[Alberel]

There's a lot still left unexplained, like why the War of the Magi started, why Mhach was so obsessed with destruction magic, what did Amdapor actually do that pushed the elementals into calling Oha-Sok, and how Nym's ruins ended up on floating rocks.

I have a theory regarding what Amdapor may have done.

Based on Amdapor HM we know the Elementals fear the stone guardians of the city. They would not even enter the city with the padjal when they attempted to cleanse it. Given how powerful the Elementals are and what we know them to be capable of I find this response to the amdapori golems rather odd.

It's worth noting also that Oha-Sok was, in a sense, the Elementals' version of a primal:

Oha-Sok is the collective fury of the elementals given form. Their suffering summoned her forth, and in her turn she stokes the fire of their rage with her keening.

When do races tend to summon primals? When they feel threatened and desperate. Up until now we've always assumed they were desperate because the abuse of White Magic was draining the land dry and killing the Elementals as a side effect. That is still a possibility, but the fear they displayed towards these guardians suggests something more specific.

With these facts in mind I speculate that there are two posibilities; either the stone guardians are capable of killing Elementals, or they were made from Elementals. What if the Amdapori version of White Magic was capable of enslaving the Elementals? One of the significant details of the War of the Magi is that it highlights white magic as having just as much potential for destruction as its antithesis. All sides were driven to desperation by the end. With the Mhachi enslaving powerful voidsent to fight on their behalf the Amdapori may have enslaved the Elementals in desperate retaliation.

A crackpot theory with no real evidence, but it would place Amdapor as a fitting mirror for Mhach.

[rainichan]

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The ending piece of the Amdapor HM questline has Raya-O and her brother talking about what it is that likely did it.

It seems safe to assume that the Amdapori built [the stone guardians] to repel the armies of the Mhach. Were I to hazard a guess, I would say that the passing of the years has dulled the statues' senses, and that they mistook [the elementals] for aetherial beings of a different order - voidsent of the kind employed by the Mhachi magi. The elementals' arrival would have seemed like an invasion.

On top of that, Kuribu's text box changes at the end of the fight (three times, no less, each time you run it, it cycles through messages), and one mentions that the red stones on the statue seem like they were imbued with some sort of magic to allow movement (the same from the Demon Brick description.)

[Alberel]

The ending piece of the Amdapor HM questline has Raya-O and her brother talking about what it is that likely did it.

On top of that, Kuribu's text box changes at the end of the fight (three times, no less, each time you run it, it cycles through messages), and one mentions that the red stones on the statue seem like they were imbued with some sort of magic to allow movement (the same from the Demon Brick description.)

Raya is referring to the statues in the present day though. Their senses wouldn't have been dulled by time when the Elementals first turned on Amdapor. All that explains is why they activated now instead of when we entered to deal with Diabolos the first time.

Kuribu's cycling descriptions are extremely vague as well. Magic that allows movement could be absolutely anything.

[myahele]

Not too important, but this patch included Ferdiad's TT Card and confirms that he was summoned by Mhach

Summoned in ages past by the sorcerers of Mhach to join the assault on Amdapor, this scythe-wielding voidsent was defeated by the city's defenders and consigned to languish behind potent seals. As a lesser noble, Ferdiad occupies the third rung of the hierarchy of twelve.

It does make me wonder if Ferdiad had a hand in the Lambs of Dalamud?

[Zohar_Lahar]

Not too important, but this patch included Ferdiad's TT Card and confirms that he was summoned by Mhach



It does make me wonder if Ferdiad had a hand in the Lambs of Dalamud?

It would depend on how much he could manipulate them from behind the failing seals, but it seems likely he was guiding them into freeing him. We know how gullible those cultists are around voidsent.

Given that scene at the end where you hear him laughing, it makes me wonder if he's going to show up again in later Shadow of Mhach raids.

[Morningstar1337]

It would depend on how much he could manipulate them from behind the failing seals, but it seems likely he was guiding them into freeing him. We know how gullible those cultists are around voidsent.

Given that scene at the end where you hear him laughing, it makes me wonder if he's going to show up again in later Shadow of Mhach raids.

Given how much refernces to the Ulster Cycle are in Void Ark (Cu Chulain, The Queen, Irminsul, etc) I sucpect that we will see him (and Diabolos) in this side story

[rainichan]

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The Elementals didn't really turn on Amdapor though, they turned on everyone - the climax of the War was likely the Mhachi summoning Diabolos and Ferdiad into the Amdapori strongholds (City and Keep), Diabolos got sealed into the city itself likely by the Amdapori mages (implied by Diabolos mentioning the White Mages waking him up), Elementals flooded everything and sealed the city after, and then the Calamity mucked everything up by weakening the Elementals and in turn, weakening the seal. It's only weakened further since the last time the WoL went to deal with Diabolos waking up (assuming we go by Time Bubble mechanics that are present.)

Re: Kuribu's magical movement, other text from in game says that the Amdapori were users of "time and space" magic. Could they have trapped an Elemental in the bricks that built up Amdapor Keep? Sure. Not likely though since that doesn't really fit the bill of what a white mage ultimately is, nor is there anything in game that would point to evidence of that that I've seen. Time/Space magic could likely manipulate inanimate objects, they could have just used White Magic to 'Raise' inanimate objects or they had access to a Life spell to do just that.

[Morningstar1337]

Re: Kuribu's magical movement, other text from in game says that the Amdapori were users of "time and space" magic. Could they have trapped an Elemental in the bricks that built up Amdapor Keep? Sure. Not likely though since that doesn't really fit the bill of what a white mage ultimately is, nor is there anything in game that would point to evidence of that that I've seen. Time/Space magic could likely manipulate inanimate objects, they could have just used White Magic to 'Raise' inanimate objects or they had access to a Life spell to do just that.

One of Kuribu's mechanics is essentially ReRaise in all but name an called "Seed of Life" to boot, so them having Life spells is very possible

[rainichan]

Future mechanics and skills for white mages but that is indeed where I'm basing it, it wouldn't strike me as odd for them to have that sort of magic to imbue stones/inanimate objects with.

[ExKage]

I've been hoping that Fernehalwes would throw us a bone soon. I've been spoiled!