Will we ever be able to 'legally' sell plots?

[LadyVal]

I only hope the new ishgard housing is corrected for the inflation of gil that came out of the expansion. I don't plan to buy one personally but if they don't the tears are gonna be real salty on the forums when all of ishgard housing (including every large house) is bought in about 3 minutes and 30 seconds when they finish maintenance on that patch day (good luck if they finish maint early -_-).

It's not like I can have 2 houses on my character so it doesn't effect me (and I'm not demolishing it to try for a ishgard house). But I'm sure I'm going to have people I know all heartbroken that they can't buy a ishgard house cause they have to work that morning or some such...

Don't forget before Ishgard housing, they are implementing the "move" system, so people won't even have to buy Ishgard houses, they can just relocate there. And you can bet that will happen way faster than most people can purchase the land.

Personally because of the amount of gil involved in housing, you shouldn't be able to turn a profit on it. I personally think people should be limited to one personal plot, and that's it. Maybe with the new apartment system they'll enforce that rule, because if people can just hoard housing then a loooot of apartments are going to get turned into garden plot farms (if they do the indoor gardening idea) or "This space is reserved so that we can plan to think about the possibility of considering turning it into an RP space." And then of course, nothing gets done with it, and it just gets kept from someone who will actually use it.

[Spawnie]

hope not ._. just look at how much people are ripping off those desperate for houses nows...

[Kerii]

Actually... All they need to do is remove the player element from the mix. Players buy housing plots from the game, players sell them back to the game, the game sells the plot to new players. Problems solved. Sure, that would destroy any sort of profit margin, but wasn't the real reason for this so people could give their house up without taking a 100% loss.

[Alberel]

Actually... All they need to do is remove the player element from the mix. Players buy housing plots from the game, players sell them back to the game, the game sells the plot to new players. Problems solved. Sure, that would destroy any sort of profit margin, but wasn't the real reason for this so people could give their house up without taking a 100% loss.

Indeed, there is no need for legitimized player to player trading of housing plots. What we need is for the relinquishing of a plot to give you back 80% of your gil, same as after the 45 day auto-demolish timer expires.

More than anything though we desperately need a limit of one house per account per server. That would free up a LOT of plots and entirely end the ambitions of land prospectors.

[Canadane]

Don't forget before Ishgard housing, they are implementing the "move" system, so people won't even have to buy Ishgard houses, they can just relocate there. And you can bet that will happen way faster than most people can purchase the land.

Yeah, can't wait for millions of gil worth of unmovable housing items are simply torn away from me.

[Andrea]

Yeah, can't wait for millions of gil worth of unmovable housing items are simply torn away from me.

From one home owner to the other, You will find a huge amount of people on these forums that do not own houses, that simply do not care about what must be done for them to obtain one.

That involves screwing over current home owners.

[LadyVal]

Yeah, can't wait for millions of gil worth of unmovable housing items are simply torn away from me.

Well, we can always hope that the move system is the exception...

I know I'm not going to be happy to get rid of all of my breakable furniture, but as it stands, the Ishgardian houses are going to have to be amazing in every aspect to make me want to leave Lavender Beds. lol

[Ashkendor]

Yeah, can't wait for millions of gil worth of unmovable housing items are simply torn away from me.

I would assume that unmovable furniture would be transferred, along with airship progress. It doesn't make any sense for them to go to all the trouble of coding a housing transfer system if it doesn't fix the problems with moving from one house to another.

[Cherie]

The part about the transfer system. It was one of the live letters. I watched that live letter. If I recall correctly, he was answering a question about what would need to be done before Ishgard housing would be ready to be released and the dev responded that he thought they should make some sort of transfer system first so that people wouldn't be sad that they already had a house....etc I mean, I think you guys are right that they might do it, but at the moment, unless I'm mistaken, the dev in the live letter (i don't recall which dev) had just said it was something he'd like to do or prefer to do first but... then again I don't speak japanese and someone was translating it for me so maybe I didn't grasp his meaning completely.

One thing I disagree, housing *is* a gil sink and I believe it was always supposed to be. The refund on auto demolished housing was some kind of compromise they came up with, but initially there were supposed to be gil sinks in the game.... If there weren't, where do you all think the gil goes? It just keeps accumulating constantly. I mean, you don't even have to sell on the market board to get money, there are quests, roulettes, monster drops, challenge logs, gil comes from everywhere and it goes *nowhere* for the most part.... That just leads to inflation and that is why stuff is so expensive on the marketboard on many servers at the moment. Gil is going down in value as a currency between players cause many people have millions they are sitting on if not more. Gil sinks are a mechanic to prevent it from getting out of hand but I agree it seems SE is changing their mind on that....so I have no idea what they plan to do about inflation... Gil is only going to further decrease in value until you are paying 500k just for a single raid food....

[MomomiMomi]

One thing I disagree, housing *is* a gil sink and I believe it was always supposed to be. The refund on auto demolished housing was some kind of compromise they came up with, but initially there were supposed to be gil sinks in the game.... If there weren't, where do you all think the gil goes? It just keeps accumulating constantly. I mean, you don't even have to sell on the market board to get money, there are quests, roulettes, monster drops, challenge logs, gil comes from everywhere and it goes *nowhere* for the most part.... That just leads to inflation and that is why stuff is so expensive on the marketboard on many servers at the moment. Gil is going down in value as a currency between players cause many people have millions they are sitting on if not more. Gil sinks are a mechanic to prevent it from getting out of hand but I agree it seems SE is changing their mind on that....so I have no idea what they plan to do about inflation... Gil is only going to further decrease in value until you are paying 500k just for a single raid food....

We've had increasing amounts of gil sinks added over time. They're all over the place, they're just not as obvious as housing.

Anyway, what we really need is for a change to housing prices. The maximum price needs to go up a lot. The minimum price can stay the same.

e.g.:
Current price: 5,000,000. This drops down to 2,500,000 over the course of 30 days.
New price: 150,000,000. This drops down to 2,500,000 over the course of 60 days.

Good luck selling your house for profit when you were the person willing to pay the most for it already.

Before this, though, we need to be able to sell plots to the system.

Along with this (but not before), a strict and officially stated stance needs to be taken on the selling of plots to other players.

And, of course, it goes without saying, we also need more housing plots.