Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[ErzaScar]

BLM kicking me from a group because using Foes or Paeon reduced PARTY DPS. *facepalm*

umm. foes doesn't drop your dps. only paeon and ballad

[Selli]

Ho-hum. This is going to be a long post.

So last night I ran LotA on my WAR because a couple people in my LS said it was very close to filling. The queue popped within a couple minutes and the raid began. The party was very friendly, there was a fair bit chit chat and also talking about items certain people wanted for glamor (as some of them had been in queue for well over an hour).

The run goes fairly smooth until we get to King Behemoth. I call SE tower in Alliance chat and stand there before the boss is pulled. I notice one of our BLMs is basically standing right on top of me, so I assure him in the party chat that I have the tower and he should go help DPS. I literally said, "I have the tower, go help DPS." The guy says nothing but does move around in circles a couple of times. When Ecliptic Meteor goes out a fair amount of people die including this BLM, but after some struggling the healers manage to get everyone up... everyone except this BLM who lets his raise time out at least once. The Meteor takes out several people a second time and the healers are MP spent trying to mass raise once again. But eventually, King Behemoth goes down and the loot drops. It is the casting hat the second caster in the party politely asks the BLM to pass on the hat, "Hey man, can I please have the hat?" Everyone else in the party agrees. This guy gives no response and proceeds to roll need on the hat and win it.

Now the party whole party is pretty upset with this guy, as looting on a fight you did not contribute in is considered very morally incorrect by a large number of people in this community. If he had contributed to the fight, I think the party would have only been mildly miffed at his silence, but would have let it go. I know I would have. But since he did not contribute an ounce of effort into the fight and wasted healer MP by not accepting raises, the party was understandably annoyed with his behavior.

So I launched a vote kick. As we were headed to the final boss I made a very quick note of why the vote kick was launched (in case anyone happened to not be paying attention to the chat until the option came up) "Did nothing, rolls need on loot". Sure enough it passed fairly quickly.

Done and done, right?

Apparently not.

This individual decided to post in a public FFXIV Facebook group about this incident, but he decided to exclude the dialogue from the boss where he was asked to participate in the fight. He only included the part of the party getting upset, making it look like all the fuss was over the hat instead of the main issue of him leeching. As a proud and very active member of the FFXIV community I am very upset that someone would go through so much trouble to make others look bad when they were clearly in the wrong. I am currently waiting acceptance into this group, but the names of some characters in the party were already posted and I will not be surprised if some people start taking this one sided story into the game to harass those people.

[EDIT] Yes, my name was indeed one of the names dropped. My "does nothing, rolls need" comment was apparently too blunt and personal without the context of the vote kick, so I've received a couple nasty tells today about this incident.

[Noxifer]

Ho-hum.

/comfort

At least your troll (or whatever he was) was in your party so you could initiate vote kick... my last troll was when I was tanking VA and had another of the tanks go in /a "You guys are ok with carrying me, right?" I think we all figured he was joking and gave him a laugh or two, maybe a joke back. But... no. He'd refuse to grab adds, had patches where he only auto-attacked on the boss, and.... for the last fight, deliberately stayed outside, leaving me to tank both baby Echidna and one of the snakes. (Thanks to awesome healers, it was no big deal, though it took me a second or two the first time to grab it, having a bit of a O.o moment when I realized the snake was nomming on said healers.) By that time, however, I'd been forced to turn off /a chat, since that tank's party seemed to treat it as their own party chat, discussing stuff that had no relevance to the run at all. When their talk turned to potential spoilers by someone asking what the others thought of some content introduced in the patch a few days earlier, I'd had enough and muted /a from my chat tabs ^^;

[Geula]

Still getting the hang of healing, didn't run much level 50 content yet. From trials so far I did Chrysalis in which I got paired up with another SCH, was mostly DPSing went pretty smooth although we wiped on meteor phase due to, I guess, not tanks being at meteors and DPS not dpsing the add and it seems the general consesus is that usually it's not very smooth. Ran also yesterday the 50 roulette which gave me that dungeon with the waves of mobs coming with a timer going down as SCH and it went surprisingly well, went in today and got Sastasha (Hard). Didn't have any problems the few times I ran it as BLM previously so I didn't expect anything so was happily full dps mode all way along to the first boss. Then something happened and one DPS got down to like 1% of health, I panic and start healing in Cleric Stance, I try to get out of it, I accidentally enable it again when trying to get out of it. Meanwhile, the other DPS died to the same thing I figure at that time, I noticed that we were getting up to 2 stacks of slime debuff so after we wipe first time I put out Selene instead of Eos. So we go in again and I don't even consider at this point stance dancing due how it went first time so I totally focus on healing because clearly I got overzealous. But then it happens, the first one to get chunked down to 1% life is me. I panic, target tank instead and I think my cooldowns from Aetherflow weren't up and I ran scared of I don't know what and died. So the second wipe happened. At this point I ask why did I die and SMN explains to me that if I have debuff on me and get single targetted by boss I'll be oneshot and that I died from DoT, makes sense I suppose. Rest of the run went very smooth, I apologised to the folks for wasting their time, it took us 40 minutes to clear.

Started also playing tanks, my main choice is Gladiator and have to say, I'm really struggling with aggro even if my gear is 1-2 levels below and unique/pink. When someone grabs aggro from I usually start the combowombo to get the proc ready which I use right after provoke... to get still aggro taken from me. I don't know if I'm doing something really badly or what but I just keep losing that aggro, makes me feel really miserable. Someone also asked me for bigger pulls in Sastasha but I mean, with what are you going to AoE? Blizzard 2?

[Noxifer]

Started also playing tanks, my main choice is Gladiator and have to say, I'm really struggling with aggro even if my gear is 1-2 levels below and unique/pink. When someone grabs aggro from I usually start the combowombo to get the proc ready which I use right after provoke... to get still aggro taken from me. I don't know if I'm doing something really badly or what but I just keep losing that aggro, makes me feel really miserable. Someone also asked me for bigger pulls in Sastasha but I mean, with what are you going to AoE? Blizzard 2? :(

Aggro is going to be a struggle until you get to level 26 where you get the third attack in your combo. Especially after they lowered tank damage, since Gladiators don't benefit from the tank stance enmity increase =/ Just make sure that you always keep your weapon updated (and preferrably pink or high-quality -- if you can craft them, or have a friend who can craft them for you, it's the best way, since they tend to be really expensive on the MB), since it's the biggest contributor to your damage, and thus enmity.

But yeah, I really don't get the "gotta speedrun in Sastasha normal" people. Got a DRK yesterday who did that (was trying to get LNC to 22 on an alt). With two LNC and a CNJ in the party. Basically, the DRK's Unleash was the only AoE damage we had -_- and due to him pulling those large groups, the healer had to stick to healing only and couldn't contribute to damage at all, meaning stuff died slower anyway. So I have no idea what that tank was thinking. No commendation for him ¬_¬

[SpiritMuse]

Void Ark run last night, at the first boss I noticed one of your bards hadn't been attacking the boss at all. So I checked what they were doing and they were locked out of the arena, standing at quite a distance away, too, as if they hadn't even been trying to get in. So after the boss is downed, I stay behind a little to stick with them as we make our way to the next part. I wave at them, and as we run they stop a few times, at which, of course, I stop too and wait for them to catch up. Clearly they're dragging their feet, intending to be locked out again and carried. We reach the morbol room, and they're inside but still not attacking. So I wave to them a few more times, and poke them, just to let them know I notice what they're doing. Finally they start participating (and I give them a cheer), and in the next boss fight as well. Bard loot drops, they don't win it, and suddenly they've dropped party.

[UnstablePersonality]

Ho-hum. This is going to be a long post.

So last night I ran LotA on my WAR because a couple people in my LS said it was very close to filling. The queue popped within a couple minutes and the raid began. The party was very friendly, there was a fair bit chit chat and also talking about items certain people wanted for glamor (as some of them had been in queue for well over an hour).

The run goes fairly smooth until we get to King Behemoth. I call SE tower in Alliance chat and stand there before the boss is pulled. I notice one of our BLMs is basically standing right on top of me, so I assure him in the party chat that I have the tower and he should go help DPS. I literally said, "I have the tower, go help DPS." The guy says nothing but does move around in circles a couple of times. When Ecliptic Meteor goes out a fair amount of people die including this BLM, but after some struggling the healers manage to get everyone up... everyone except this BLM who lets his raise time out at least once. The Meteor takes out several people a second time and the healers are MP spent trying to mass raise once again. But eventually, King Behemoth goes down and the loot drops. It is the casting hat the second caster in the party politely asks the BLM to pass on the hat, "Hey man, can I please have the hat?" Everyone else in the party agrees. This guy gives no response and proceeds to roll need on the hat and win it.

Now the party whole party is pretty upset with this guy, as looting on a fight you did not contribute in is considered very morally incorrect by a large number of people in this community. If he had contributed to the fight, I think the party would have only been mildly miffed at his silence, but would have let it go. I know I would have. But since he did not contribute an ounce of effort into the fight and wasted healer MP by not accepting raises, the party was understandably annoyed with his behavior.

So I launched a vote kick. As we were headed to the final boss I made a very quick note of why the vote kick was launched (in case anyone happened to not be paying attention to the chat until the option came up) "Did nothing, rolls need on loot". Sure enough it passed fairly quickly.

Done and done, right?

Apparently not.

This individual decided to post in a public FFXIV Facebook group about this incident, but he decided to exclude the dialogue from the boss where he was asked to participate in the fight. He only included the part of the party getting upset, making it look like all the fuss was over the hat instead of the main issue of him leeching. As a proud and very active member of the FFXIV community I am very upset that someone would go through so much trouble to make others look bad when they were clearly in the wrong. I am currently waiting acceptance into this group, but the names of some characters in the party were already posted and I will not be surprised if some people start taking this one sided story into the game to harass those people.

[EDIT] Yes, my name was indeed one of the names dropped. My "does nothing, rolls need" comment was apparently too blunt and personal without the context of the vote kick, so I've received a couple nasty tells today about this incident.

Lol I'm curious what group got the butt of his complaints over his not contributing.

[Vele]

Clearly they're dragging their feet, intending to be locked out again and carried.

I love it when people think they can get away with it. A while back when I ran my weekly VA with a few static members, we had a healer attempt this. First boss, ehh, well shit can happen. Maybe they went afk real quick to use the bathroom or someone was at the door or something. Second boss... Hmm... After third boss they got kicked. Popping sprint and standing still does not make you more convincing. Nice try though.

[The_Shang]

Did a Sohm Al run earlier today. Thought I'd mess around with a parser running in the background since I'm still pretty fresh to playing Summoner.

Now our party comp was this: Pally, my gf on WHM, me, Black Mage. Now, when I use my parser, I tend to check the gear my party members are wearing. Everything seemed fine, although the tank was a bit undergeared (Ironworks 120's/HQ 115's). BLM was wearing level appropriate stuff. Or so I thought, until my gf pointed out to me halfway through he was wearing, in order, int, vit, dex, str and mnd accessories. Queue the most epic facepalm ever on my side.

No wonder I did 35% of the damage in the run, averaging a dps of 328. The BLM did 22%, averaging a dps of 208. In contrast, the tank and my gf were both around 140 dps >.<

Some people are just idiots :/

[Artemiz]

But yeah, I really don't get the "gotta speedrun in Sastasha normal" people. Got a DRK yesterday who did that (was trying to get LNC to 22 on an alt). With two LNC and a CNJ in the party. Basically, the DRK's Unleash was the only AoE damage we had -_- and due to him pulling those large groups, the healer had to stick to healing only and couldn't contribute to damage at all, meaning stuff died slower anyway. So I have no idea what that tank was thinking. No commendation for him ¬_¬

This mentality blows my mind, it makes no sense at all. I had a Halatali NM on DRG for leveling roulette, got a DRK tank. Other members where an AST and MNK. The DRK decided to go full speed run mode and pull EVERYTHING. All it did was made sure I had to constantly switch mobs or tank whatever I hit and the healer couldn't help with DPS as he was far too busy cure bombing the tank. The net result was a slower run and a ton of unnecessary stress on the healer. After the first couple of pulls I'd have thought the penny would drop but nope, he obviously thought he was doing a grand job.....