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  1. #3161
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    FinaSel's Avatar
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Ninja Lv 70

    The crown doesn't make you invincible

    Ever since the mentor system was introduced, I've encountered a few "mentors" who have been the bane of my White Mage existence.

    One recent example, in Castrum Meridianum, a Machinist "mentor" decided he wanted to play tank. He was running around pulling the trash before the tank. I was struggling very hard to heal him, the other healer was only using regen and Medica II the entire time (and using holy too far from the mobs to actually even hit them), and the poor tanks were trying to control the mobs. We almost wiped.

    Right before the final boss I decided to stop healing this "mentor" tank-wannabe and let him die. And refused to raise him. The first time I've ever done that.

    And I've encountered tank "mentors" in low level dungeons who think they can pull all the trash at once and expect me to heal with 5 or more mobs on them. With only "Cure" and "Medica I" it just isn't going to happen.
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  2. #3162
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    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
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    Eileen White
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100

    Sephirot EX

    Tiferets. Every mechanic? 2 Tiferets before you get hit with another mechanic in Phase 1. It really hurts, and it drains MP a lot. I've had to use Medica II to get over it along with Assize at times when moving. 6k damage going out is a lot to deal with, but probably is something that i220 can beat, honestly.

    If you want an actual story, I had this one time in Stone Vigil where the tank decides to pull everything and the kitchen sink to the room on the right before the room you have to cross over, and he even pulled the Aevis that decides to poke its head out the door! Wiped there even with Eye for an Eye added since the tank didn't use any CDs(it was a DRK). Thankfully he learned from his lesson when I taught him how to gauge your healer and pull accordingly.
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  3. #3163
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Tiferets. Every mechanic? 2 Tiferets before you get hit with another mechanic in Phase 1. It really hurts, and it drains MP a lot. I've had to use Medica II to get over it along with Assize at times when moving. 6k damage going out is a lot to deal with, but probably is something that i220 can beat, honestly.
    SephEx phase 1 is incredibly predictable; you can literally do the same exact rotation over and over again and be successful (give or take a few people standing outside of your AOE range). Yeah, it can be MP intensive, but fortunately you have what is essentially sitting around forever and ever and ever between the end of Phase 2 and start of phase 3 to recover, as well as about a full minute at the start of Phase 3 and post wind-phase to get MP back if you need it.

    On WHM, my rotation from memory goes something like
    Regen -> Cure I -> Divine Seal -> Medica II -> Medica -> Cure II -> Regen
    Jumps
    Medica II -> Medica -> Medica if necessary due to low iLevels, otherwise just sit an Asylum down on Seph's butt and let people sit at 4k HP while he winds up that tankbuster, Asylum will do the work for you -> Stoneskin that tankbuster -> Shroud of Saints (important! Your hate builds up pretty quickly on WHM, this may need to be done a step or two earlier if your tanks aren't the best and I know I've caused a few wipes due to turning him in this section right as he cleaves) -> Cure II -> Cure I

    Blobs
    The key trick to WHM about blobs is twofold:
    1. Use your Divine Seal early in the battle, as I have it there on the first line. If you do it right after that first buster, it'll be back up in time for blobs. Use Divine Seal Medica II while you're standing between Seph and the Ein Sof.
    2. Swiftcast.

    Sprint to your place. Swiftcast once there -> run to the middle of the room with sprint on once they explode -> Medica -> Medica -> Medica -> Medica (this one may or may not be necessary depending on your off healer, usually you won't need it unless your SCH is never leaving Cleric except for an Indom and Succor or two) -> Stoneskin that buster -> Cure II -> Cure I/II/Tetra
    Medica II while everyone positions themselves for jumps.

    Rinse, repeat.

    The key thing really is to use your Swiftcast Medicas after the blobs. I'm not saying save your Assize, if anything, I'm in the bad habit of saving mine, but Swiftcast is a very important tool here.

    But really, it is very predictable and once you get used to the damage it's not bad. It was pretty hard for me at 210, but once I hit 215 it was easy. Now that I'm at 220 all over, I'm very safe in phase 1 and am getting that overgeared feeling. The 210 HP is just so squishy. I don't have a static, I got my practice, clear, and farms all via PF.

    Good luck!
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 03-17-2016 at 05:24 PM.

  4. #3164
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Plus if the damage are shared healed between both heal it doesn't eat your mana XD
    Solo heal as whm will hurt
    Only the AST and his cheated mana regen can solo heal it without entering add phase with low mana
    (That's why I run it as AST now)
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  5. #3165
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Had a tank drk wearing i125/135 in sirius HM for expert duty roulette. 15k Hp, while I have 14k myself. Some of the trash-mobs autoattacks were hitting him down to below 3k in just one hit.

    Nevah again.
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  6. #3166
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    MayuraT's Avatar
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    Mayura Takamori
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    Well, yes. But not the one that covers the entire floor including platforms. I kinda figured that's the one MayuraT meant ^^;
    Thank you for the clarification, Noxifer! Yes, that's the one, it usually happens right after clearing second set of slime/blob adds and is not avoidable.
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  7. #3167
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Had a tank drk wearing i125/135 in sirius HM for expert duty roulette.
    Oh God, why.

    I had this happen in Arboretum once; I'm so sorry.
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  8. #3168
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    Mayura Takamori
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Had a tank drk wearing i125/135 in sirius HM for expert duty roulette. 15k Hp, while I have 14k myself. Some of the trash-mobs autoattacks were hitting him down to below 3k in just one hit.

    Nevah again.
    Doesn't that not meet min requirement to get in the roulette? if i remember correctly even the fractal continuum had min requirement higher than that...
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  9. #3169
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MayuraT View Post
    Doesn't that not meet min requirement to get in the roulette? if i remember correctly even the fractal continuum had min requirement higher than that...
    Min ilvl is 170 for Pharos. I can kinda see someone being able to hack though that via i220 accessories combined with i135 left side and then switching to more tank like accessories at i135 once they're in.

    Either way... W...T...F... >>;
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  10. #3170
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Quote Originally Posted by MayuraT View Post
    Doesn't that not meet min requirement to get in the roulette? if i remember correctly even the fractal continuum had min requirement higher than that...
    When it happened to me for Arboretum during 3.1, the guy had like a 145 weapon, 200 Void Ark body, and 210 accessories. I didn't check the rest of his gear after that, I was too busy spamming Cure II on everyone because his ability to keep hate was non-existent.
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