Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
After doing a sephirot ex training run me and 3 other fc members tried the feast 4x4. We got utterly destroyed in minutes. This kind of matching has put me off the feast for good. So this is one less newbie you have to worry about.
What i mean to say is that its no fun for a newbie to get matched against a veteran team.

As if the skill bloat with regular PvE content isnt bad enough, it gets doubled when you add the PvP skills. How the hell are you going to fit them on a cross hotbar?
I do agree there should be a training mode like they just added for regular combat.

The thing is, though, 8v8 even says training on it:



It's unranked, designed for people who are new. Those unfamiliar with pvp should be utilizing 8v8 until they get the hang of it.

4v4 premade matches are designed for people who have a "pvp static" so to speak. Those that know their classes well when it comes to pvp, ie experienced/veteran players.

SE doesn't make this evidently clear, unfortunately...

On one hand it sucks that you can't queue with more than one other person for 8v8 but if people were allowed to queue in as a full premade force, would there really be much room to learn if one team is completely premade vs. a team with 3-4 new players? I think not.