People are deliberately ruining the story for others

[Gyson]

Players have to visit specific dungeons to progress through a required storyline in a game that is heavily story-based. Revisiting these dungeons for whatever reason is completely optional. If one of these two groups needs to be protected at whatever cost to the other, it is obviously the former that SE should be catering to in this case.

[Aerish]

Damn, the time i was finishing ARR, i don't remember being able to hit one Boss, tho i do remember ppl spamming me to quit cinematics :s

[LordNickage]

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This. So much.

Yeah it sucks dealing with zero rushes. But at least it is only two dungeons in the ENTIRE story. Deal as best you can, or use PF, and move on knowing it won't be an issue again.

[Amiaze]

When 2 bosses die, while you watch one cutscene, then yes, that is being ruined.

I can empathize. However, as others have said, this is an issue that has been address many, many times and it is the reason that dungeons no longer have long cutscenes. You could always set up a PF or have someone run it unsynched with you (assuming this is possible) so that you can watch the story unfold.

[Mjollnir]

So use Party Finder instead of Duty Finder and specify full clear. Go with friends from your Free Company or people on your server who will be excited to take you through those instances. Duty Finder's the quickest option, but it's not the only one.

[Ashkendor]

Actually, your best bet is to spend some time finding a good FC on your server. All you'd need are like four friends to queue up for the dungeon with you and wait while you watch cutscenes. That would solve the problem of everything being zerged without you.

Or his four friends could queue up unsynced with him and not deliberately slow down other people in DF.

Actually, you only need 1 or 2. I've done this for many newer people in my FC.

Players have to visit specific dungeons to progress through a required storyline in a game that is heavily story-based. Revisiting these dungeons for whatever reason is completely optional. If one of these two groups needs to be protected at whatever cost to the other, it is obviously the former that SE should be catering to in this case.

Except for the fact that without veteran players queueing in, these dungeons would take hours to pop.

[WinterLuna]

People only run the old content for the rewards in the first place. Gate people like this and you'll have a lot less people queuing for them, and then you'll be complaining about the lack of people queuing. It sucks that you can't watch the cutscenes but otherwise you'll have an even harder time.

[Darkstride]

At this point, you would need to create a Party Finder group to avoid people speed-running it. Once you've progressed and have run those cutscene-heavy story dungeons 100+ times through roulette, you'll understand why no one wants to sit around for 10 minutes waiting on cutscenes. It gets old quick. I can understand your frustration, but you also have to understand the other side of it.

Really, though, given that these dungeons are part of a daily roulette for bonuses, you would have to form your own group to avoid having people speed run it. If you change the mechanics and force everyone to watch (or wait for) every cutscene, then people will stop queuing for it, and no one will ever even get into the instance in the first place.

The game has moved on and adapted to correct this issue, but for the older instances you basically just have to suck it up and deal with it. At least you can re-watch the cutscenes at your leisure.

[CyrilLucifer]

There needs to be a mechanic that puts people into that ring that you cannot leave like at the beginning, when someone watches a cutscene.

If they do this, no one will run Main Scenario roulette and then you'll understand what true "deliberately ruining the story for others" means, because new players won't be able to progress the story at all. It's a very short-sighted stance to take.

(the primary scenes of worth to the big picture in those two dungeons are the three at the end of Praetorium, though, due to the lore meta; otherwise many of these cutscenes you're complaining about missing are quite filler-y - like basically every scene in CM. Fortunately, you can view these most important scenes in the Inn.)

[Eidolon]

People only run the old content for the rewards in the first place. Gate people like this and you'll have a lot less people queuing for them, and then you'll be complaining about the lack of people queuing. It sucks that you can't watch the cutscenes but otherwise you'll have an even harder time.

Hmn, I can't really agree with this.

Consider this:
Your regular MSQ Roulette is 120 Poetics + 20 (Praetorium)
The bonus for taking a new player through the Roulette is 100 poetics.


Effectively, the bonus makes up for the 'extra time' the player would add onto the run (in the case of new player bonus.)

However, due to the overwhealming greed of the players who want to 'run fast and get it done', these players are penalized in the game.

In the scenario of having a new player, giving them some more control in these dungouns would be beneficial for all. But as it stands, the power is in the hands of the veterans - which can be either good or bad. Most new players are just conditioned to know better now but it was pretty bad at the start.

The worst part of this, to me, is that these players run without a concern for the new player, and take the new player bonus. It's like double-dipping in grime.