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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Besides Hilda the Mongrel, an Elezen/Hyur mix, we haven't seen any.
    H-heh...another excuse to bring up Garlemald in a thread!

    There's an NPC called Arenvald in The Waking Sands. At one point it is revealed through flavour text that he's a Garlean half-breed. He uses the Highlander model and may or may not have a third eye beneath his hair that conveniently covers his forehead. So Garleans can seemingly breed with other types of Hyur - which isn't too surprising - but I suspect Garlean half-breeds are shunned by many based on politics and a fear of them boasting conflicted loyalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    H-heh...another excuse to bring up Garlemald in a thread!

    There's an NPC called Arenvald in The Waking Sands. At one point it is revealed through flavour text that he's a Garlean half-breed. He uses the Highlander model and may or may not have a third eye beneath his hair that conveniently covers his forehead. So Garleans can seemingly breed with other types of Hyur - which isn't too surprising - but I suspect Garlean half-breeds are shunned by many based on politics and a fear of them boasting conflicted loyalties.
    I'm more interested in if the inability to manipulate aether is inherited when breeding with an aether-manipulating Hyur or not. Does he ever mention it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I'm more interested in if the inability to manipulate aether is inherited when breeding with an aether-manipulating Hyur or not. Does he ever mention it?
    He doesn't bring it up. I'm very interested in learning how that works too since I'm a role-player who plays a Garlean half-breed myself. (A shocking revelation, no doubt!)

    My current tentative theory is that Garlean half-breeds can manipulate aether but their ability to do so is severely dampened and leaves them feeling very ill.

    It's only very recently that we learned about Garlemald's hierarchy and what the 'third eye' actually does. The former was discovered in Gubal and the latter through a Q&A session. I'll make a mental note to bring the question up next time we get another lore Q&A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    The secret origin of Highlanders! Their mothers really are Hellsguards!
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    Fun Fact: Some Midlanders like to joke that because Highlander names have a very Roegadyn feel to them (in addition to highlanders being very large and muscular), that the clan is somehow “less Hyuran.” Many an alehouse brawl has broken out as a result of a Midlander in his cups uttering such quips as ‘Your mother was a Sea Wolf ’ in the presence of a Highlander. Needless to say, most of these quarrels do not end well for the instigator.
    Naming-conventions lore is canon enough for me!
    well not in the case of my avatar character, but it's fun to think about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    He doesn't bring it up. I'm very interested in learning how that works too since I'm a role-player who plays a Garlean half-breed myself. (A shocking revelation, no doubt!)
    I don't role play, but I do other things outside but related to FFXIV. Yes, things. Er. Well, I don't judge, you're quite free to enjoy what you like!

    I'd be quite interested in a canonical answer for Garleans and aether sickness as well. Do they have a lower tolerance? If a Garlean were to say, enter the Shroud, which is already heavily soaked in aether and is said to cause aether sickness to newcomers of the traditional spoken races, would they be more prone to it, or less prone? Or even the same? I have so many questions regarding their aether - it's almost like they've been cut off from Hydaelyn (or 'the Source') Herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    H-heh...another excuse to bring up Garlemald in a thread!

    There's an NPC called Arenvald in The Waking Sands. At one point it is revealed through flavour text that he's a Garlean half-breed. He uses the Highlander model and may or may not have a third eye beneath his hair that conveniently covers his forehead. So Garleans can seemingly breed with other types of Hyur - which isn't too surprising - but I suspect Garlean half-breeds are shunned by many based on politics and a fear of them boasting conflicted loyalties.
    Yay a fellow Garlean-half breed! I'm also a bit interested in this information. You also have to wonder if the subrace has anything to do with how they look. (I'd say it does but our only example is someone who comes from highlander dominated Ala Mihgo.) I bet we'll see more on the subject if 4.0 heads there, or the eventual garlemald expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    There's an NPC called Arenvald in The Waking Sands. At one point it is revealed through flavour text that he's a Garlean half-breed.
    IIRC, he's the offspring of a Highlander woman and a Garlean soldier of unspecified race. Remembering what we know about their military, it's entirely possible his father is a Hyuran conscript, not a Garlean pure-blood.

    Then again, Cid uses the Highlander frame, while Lucia and Nero (and Nael) use the Elezen, so there's no way to know for sure.
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    I mean there probably IS, but they probably are treated similarly to Hilda, but I mean even if she wasn't crossbred she would probably have still been outcasted because of the other aspects of her birth. I was going to say it would be most likely to happen in the similarly sized races but.. then I remember the sexual dimorphism of the auri. Based off the mostly conservative views of Eorzea at large I would agree with others these people would have to be nomadic because they certainly wouldn't be accepted into most of society.

    I don't really think we'll ever see this anyway.. I mean SE doesnt seem to be bringing race into it a whole lot, the WoL's race is only brought up 3 whole times in msq.
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    My best guess is that only three of the 6 races can successfully breed; Roe, Hyur (includes Garleans) and Elezen. Biologically, Lalafell, Au Ra and Miq'ote are just too different from the rest to successfully reproduce with anyone but their own race. Doesn't mean they can't/won't try, though. The beastmen also are a little too biologically different to breed with any other sentient race.
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    There probably are quite a few cross breeds in Eorzea, probably going to be alot more now that the city states are less isolated from each other and are working together via GCs.

    With that said there was a quest in C. Western Highlands called "The old man and the lake" where an Elezen in noble-ish clothes asks you to convince his grandfather to come live with him and when you go to the grandfather's shack the grandfather is unmistakably a midlander Hyur
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