Support Yoshi-P's efforts to bring XIV to as many platforms as possible. :)

[Kosmos992k]

Sorry, I wasn't very clear before. I was meaning how would MS get their cake and eat it too if it was released on Xbox One and I picked it up on X1 (I own the console, I'm a universal Windows developer in training), and then also played with the Steam version. I could just funnel my purchases through Steam/Mog Station correct? Then MS loses out.

They lose out because you're buying a second license for the game on an alternate platform. Yes, of course that would work since anything done with your sub and optional items impacts your account regardless of platform. Most gamers on console are unlikely to purchase a second license for a game in order to work around something like that, therefore MS would still see significant revenue flowing through XBL for FFXIV if FFXIV was on XBox.

[Zeyphr_Darkshadow]

How convenient that MS just announced they'll allow cross platform play with PSN.

[Kosmos992k]

How convenient that MS just announced they'll allow cross platform play with PSN.

Only if Devs implement it in their games, it's not a feature of XBL now or anything like that. It's done on a game by game basis and depends 100% on developers implementing it.

Technically, PS4 players of FFXIV would look like every other player of FFXIV to the Xbox One since the game servers are owned and run by SE. Before this change was announced, there was zero technical reason why a version of FFXIV implemented on Xbox One would be unable to handle cross platform play with PC, PS4 and Mac, because the game platform is SE's servers, so the client platform is irrelevant.

The reasons for FFXIV not being on Xbox One have very little to do with technical aspects of interoperation of games. Rocket League is a Peer-Peer game, so it's necessary for game clients to be able to communicate with other game clients regardless of platform. FFXIV is client server, so as long as a client can talk to the server, it can see everyone, regardless of their console or laptop/desktop computer.

[Zeyphr_Darkshadow]

Only if Devs implement it in their games, it's not a feature of XBL now or anything like that. It's done on a game by game basis and depends 100% on developers implementing it.

Yoshi stated the *ONLY* thing stopping him from creating the XB1 version was MS's decision to not allow it.

[Kosmos992k]

Yoshi stated the *ONLY* thing stopping him from creating the XB1 version was MS's decision to not allow it.

*It* being what exactly?

Look, support your platform or whatever all you like, I don't care what console you or anyone else owns as long as you enjoy your games.

This news story is overblown already as it is.

Edit:Removed because I can't verify this independently of my memory, which may be incorrect... Anyone who played Burnout Paradise on PS3 and Xbox 360 could play together, so

...this cross-platform news is just more of the usual smoke and mirrors from a corporation that got caught in it's proprietary world with a shrinking console population. Endorsing Cross Platform play makes MS sound like they are doing something special, they are not.

If you look at a major online game such as a shooter. Currently the user populations of those games cannot talk to each other if they are on different consoles. When 360 ruled the roost in the US, this was not a problem because their userbase was very solid and had the critical mass to attract players from Playstation who wanted to play with their friends. Now the boot is on the other foot, MS is losing console users to PlayStation because it has critical mass ion the market.

Microsoft knows that the XBox One will be more viable if friends can play with friends, and keeping a closed network no longer serves their business need, now they need cross platform play to maintain sales and userbase.

Openly allowing cross platform play let's Microsoft claim that they are now open when in fact it's not a technology issue, it's always been a business issue.

Edit:Removed because I can't verify this independently of my memory, which may be incorrect... The example I gave at the outset, of Burnout Paradise

FFXI & FFXIV are both clear demonstrations that there is no technological issue, and never has been.

[Zeyphr_Darkshadow]

[QUOTE]

*It* being what exactly?

Look, support your platform or whatever all you like, I don't care what console you or anyone else owns as long as you enjoy your games.

This news story is overblown already as it is. Anyone who played Burnout Paradise on PS3 and Xbox 360 could play together, so this cross-platform news is just more of the usual smoke and mirrors from a corporation that got caught in it's proprietary world with a shrinking console population. Endorsing Cross Platform play makes MS sound like they are doing something special, they are not.

...Im not quite sure what you're talking about. You sound upset that MS announced this change. I merely posted a statement which Yoshi said. The only reason he wouldn't make the XB1 version is because MS wouldn't allow X-Server play. Idc if the story is overblown or w/e xD

[Kosmos992k]

[QUOTE=Zeyphr_Darkshadow;3618396]

...Im not quite sure what you're talking about. You sound upset that MS announced this change. I merely posted a statement which Yoshi said. The only reason he wouldn't make the XB1 version is because MS wouldn't allow X-Server play. Idc if the story is overblown or w/e xD

I hate to say this, but you're wrong about why FFXIV is not on Xbox One.

This announcement changes nothing, that was the point I was making. Whether you understand that or not, is not my issue. You apparently are not aware of, or do not understand the issues behind SE not putting FFXIV on Xbox One, which have very little to do with technical issues of cross platform play.

Not sure why you think I'm upset at the announcement, I just feel that it's being overblown because it's nothing new, and has been possible since Xbox and PS2. If anything I'd like to have seen an Xbox One version of FFXIV, it would mean more players, and more players is always a good thing.

[Zeyphr_Darkshadow]

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I hate to say this, but you're wrong about why FFXIV is not on Xbox One.

This announcement changes nothing, that was the point I was making. Whether you understand that or not, is not my issue. You apparently are not aware of, or do not understand the issues behind SE not putting FFXIV on Xbox One, which have very little to do with technical issues of cross platform play.

First you say it depends on if the developers want to implement it, then when I say that Yoshi is willing to do that (If his statement holds true), I'm wrong? My, you're a silly one.

Then please tell us all, high and mighty, lead developer at SE, why won't they create the game on XB1 now that MS have allowed X-Server play.

Ps- There apparently were no technical issues behind the X-Server play, just that MS were being stingy.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

First you say it depends on if the developers want to implement it, then when I say that Yoshi is willing to do that (If his statement holds true), I'm wrong? My, you're a silly one.

Then please tell us all, high and mighty, lead developer at SE, why won't they create the game on XB1 now that MS have allowed X-Server play.

Ps- There apparently were no technical issues behind the X-Server play, just that MS were being stingy.

This line is most likely why it won't happen - Of course, it’s up to game developers to support this feature, and Xbox Live players will always have the option of choosing to play only with other Xbox Live players.

[Kosmos992k]

First you say it depends on if the developers want to implement it, then when I say that Yoshi is willing to do that (If his statement holds true), I'm wrong? My, you're a silly one.

Maybe you should read my posts before replying in future.

There apparently were no technical issues behind the X-Server play, just that MS were being stingy.

That is precisely what I have been saying.

::rolls eyes::
Thanks for taking half my posting limit.