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  1. #11
    Player Vaeria's Avatar
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    Devil Panzerfaust
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Pretty much agree with every point stated so far, especially Cynric's last comment. To be sure...don't wanna come off like this is a 'lets hate all brds/blms vent. In the right hands (Dani Ross/ Bananajuice for example) the jobs are respectable enough. It just feels like with the jobs mechanics for the effort involved, at BEST..they just break even. In both cases, IF the job is ignored..they can do great things.But if focused? smn vs blm: a focused smn can still unload heavily while on the run, blm, next to none. mch vs brd..same thing....mch can 'full'burst on the fly, + heavy targets (which im starting to find surprisingly tactical lol) and still retain a shread of decency against closers if that turrent is out. Brd...cant fully burst while moving, suffers from somewhat larger cds for its binds/ pushbacks.

    Kinda still out for lunch regarding tanks. Just due to previous experiences in WD, when tanks decide to follow their second calling of ' i r a dps tew dammit!' and go after other targets aside from healer pestering...id rather have a war over a pld or drk. If plds actually doing his 'job' (ya ya..politically incorrect word there) and riding the healer all the way back to his innroom, maybe pld. Otherwise war. Sure there are some skilled drks who are doing great things but havent seen anything tideworthy in general yet for them so D:

    Meleewise...even though i be drg, gonna have to put my pride aside and give mnk the vote 100% for 1 inch punch ><; Just being able to strip the clothes.err..buffs off that cute lil lala smn and be able to appreciate her inner beauty more without all the barriers to get in the way..ooo lala~ same thing for healers. As for nins..well..purely so as not to offend anyone, i'll just pretend its ballista again, I ate some sushi..and all the shadows are down. ;o Unlike the brd vs smn thing though...nin can play better than mnk and drg in contribution for the team so with them, guess it just depends 101% on the user's style. ...*coughbutgenerallyninsuxj/kcough*

    Healer department? With a few freak exceptions (like a big fat huggable snowman roe whm who shall forever remain nameless) quit being lazy and go lvl ast lol ..j/k j/k. Seriously, the jobs built for pvp like no other. As Dimitri said..theyre the one job 'usually' that can carry its own weight for extended time w/o breaking under pressure. As a melee..it gets downright tiring seeing 0, 0, 0, hit after hit on your target because that ast is doing his thing.
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    Last edited by Vaeria; 03-14-2016 at 10:28 AM.

  2. #12
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    Renault's Avatar
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    King Stefan
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Bard is good, if not better than MCH.
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  3. #13
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    Bard is good, if not better than MCH.
    Please elaborate. They have been a waste of space so far when im teamed up with them.
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  4. #14
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    King Stefan
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Please elaborate. They have been a waste of space so far when im teamed up with them.
    Their burst is quicker to get off and not reliant on stuns. Barrage + Emp arrow, Sidewinder, Farshot = 70% if not more of someone's HP.

    Also their damage is more consistent as they don't rely on ammunition.
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  5. #15
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    Felien Eurelt
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    Their burst is quicker to get off and not reliant on stuns. Barrage + Emp arrow, Sidewinder, Farshot = 70% if not more of someone's HP.

    Also their damage is more consistent as they don't rely on ammunition.
    You need wm to do that and time sorry this is not pve and even in pve mch burst wins bard. Mch is a better dps in pvp by far.
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  6. #16
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    Devenu De'lune
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I rarely see any bards use wardens paean. Doesn't it remove a rebuff and the next within 45 sec?
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  7. #17
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    King Stefan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felien View Post
    You need wm to do that and time sorry this is not pve and even in pve mch burst wins bard. Mch is a better dps in pvp by far.
    If you can't get a single cast off for EMP arrow then you're not a good bard...Sorry, I'm not going to sit here and agree just because a less than average MCH is more valuable than a less than average BRD. A good BRD can accomplish more than a good MCH, as they can do it alone, and they have Warden's Paen, which is an extremely valuable ability that can cancel out tri-disasters and prevent stun locks.
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    Devenu De'lune
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Seems like people play bards wrong and they get a lot of flax for it.
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  9. #19
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    Felien Eurelt
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Well with more than 200 matches i never saw a bard performance that well, but no one can say they beat mch in the game if you put both good players Mch wins is a fact. Mch burst is the stronger in the game in pve and pvp. Good bards can performance well, but not as mch
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  10. #20
    Player Vaeria's Avatar
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    Character
    Devil Panzerfaust
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Forgive me for this brds but:

    Random Brd: NOW YOU DIE MOFO! *stops running as target moves away* WANDERER'S MINUET GO! *pops rs,he, b4b, barrage* AND NOW..EMPYREAL ARRO-.....EMPYR-......Em....wait.WAIT! Man stop! Stop hitting me for a sec ><; DAMMIT sthawwwp!! My barrage timers running out gdi!! Oh ffs....*stands still and waits for WD timer to wear down*

    At least get the devs to give em a pvp skill like..Wanderer's Free Pass *ignores Wanderer's casting penalty for 10 seconds* As if the *im now 2 yalms away from you and so gonna make you my completely submissive lil ***** while your healer tries to keep your useless existance of a life alive* -penalty wasn't enough. Lez see..what else. Oh ja~ Lez compare the once rumored to be ranged/300 potency 'Blast Shot" to 'Death Flare. *Keep in mind this is supposed to be a 'melee job vs a 'caster' job. "Blast Shot..with 3 upgrades...120 sec recast....5....yes...5 yalms (isnt sweetspot said to be 15 which makes the damage increase useless?) vs longrange, instant cast aoe deathflare. The job as it currently is is a joke. A 'focused' brd is absolute garbage.
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    Last edited by Vaeria; 03-14-2016 at 11:19 AM.

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