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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    We're forgeting one thing. The community. Yes, we can have 100+ skills, and you have slots to put the Blue Magic and customize the skills. Now, there will be always "proprer" rotation. People will demand you do determinated skills rotations.

    "Did you have got Goblin Punch"?
    "Not yet.
    "OMG, you cannot do the proper rotation without that. Don't you know you need use Goblin Punch -> Aqua breath -> Death Claw then the Flame Tower + Mind Blast to maximize DPS!!"

    This is the problem .YOu can add all the skills you want to Blue Mage and let players personalize (it is a good idea eh), but people will stack with only one proper rotation because is the more efficient one, so, why have 100 skills? It is like the Egi. All people uses Garuda, no one uses Ifrit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    It is like the Egi. All people uses Garuda, no one uses Ifrit.
    I use Ifrit quite often thank you. Though I think I'm one of the few that realise Ifrit can use AoEs and Gatuda can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    I use Ifrit quite often thank you. Though I think I'm one of the few that realise Ifrit can use AoEs and Gatuda can't.
    I do not play much SMN, so I don't know much about, I just saying what I see. I had some static with SMN, they always use Garuda for all.

    Anyway, that's out of the threat theme. Was I was saying, it is that most of the people will take a rotation as the efficient one and sooner or latr all people wil ltake it because is the optimal, making the Blue Mage customization just an anecdote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    I use Ifrit quite often thank you. Though I think I'm one of the few that realise Ifrit can use AoEs and Gatuda can't.
    Uh, what? Since when is Aerial Slash and Aerial Blast not AOE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    I do not play much SMN, so I don't know much about, I just saying what I see. I had some static with SMN, they always use Garuda for all.

    Anyway, that's out of the threat theme. Was I was saying, it is that most of the people will take a rotation as the efficient one and sooner or latr all people wil ltake it because is the optimal, making the Blue Mage customization just an anecdote.
    They use Garuda because Contagion is just too nice to not use
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    Uh

    people who want blue mage tend to be FF fanboys. I mean it doesn't seem to be as commonly-known of a class like some others.

    lmao WoW
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  7. #57
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    Whats the difference between this and doing class quests?

    Seriously, if people pull their heads out of their butts you realize its the same thing right? Your doing something that takes time to acquire skills... NO DIFFERENT FROM class quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron View Post
    Uh, what? Since when is Aerial Slash and Aerial Blast not AOE?
    <Shrugs> it has admittedly been a while since I played Summoner (recently switched my main class to Ninja so I've been playing gear catch up) so I may just be mistaken on skill lay outs. I think all 3 Egis actually have at least 1 AoE pluss their super attack now that I think about it.
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    Anyone who has played either Final Fantasy IX or
    Final Fantasy XI knows what a blue mage is.. so it really should be pretty well known.. it isn't like you had to be playing the really old games to have heard of it. personally I thought that it was one of the best jobs in XI, it was among my first capped off jobs infact, and the story for it was pretty amazing (you essentially being made in to a chimera by the blue mages in the empire and sent out to devour the souls of your enemies to gain power whilst trying not to lose control over your magic, and seeing the horrible fate that awaits blue mages that do lose control... that was amazing, though watching the out of control blue mage have his face erupt in tentacles while his body contorts in some really inhuman ways was kind of horror movie esque.. yup.. you become a soul flayer ladies and gentlemen, that is where their model in XIV originated. Don't abuse your magic)

    and as far as the magic hunting i would imagine it would have to be handed out in job quests since heaven forbid anyone have to do any work at all in xiv.. even a lancet system would likely be shunned. Maybe the class quests would all be solo boss battles where at the end of the fight you get a cutscene about taking the monsters power, that could be pretty epic actually.

    I am just kind of amazed at how much people want things handed to them these days.. it wasn't even all that difficult on XI, i never once had to "bother a couple of friends to go out spell hunting for six hours" ..i looked up level relevant spells and soloed it.. it took roughly a few fights per spell at most, if your magic is capped its easy.. all you had to do was stand there and wait for the move to get used before killing the monster, literally the hardest part was being a little bit patient and not minding getting smacked around a bit..

    Lol.. i suppose that its a bit of a problem if you want everything "right now!!!" Which is why most people playing blu either quit before level 10-15 or else mained the job to cap and put effort in to it, you definitely saw a personality difference between high level blue mages and everyone else because capped blue mages tended to be very calm patient people with a great deal of pride in their job due to the effort given to mastery, it's nice feeling a sense of accomplishment like that especially if you go the extra mile and fight Raubahn for your 70-75 level cap instead of doing it on another job. Since XI keeps being brought up especially for the people bad mouthing it for whatever odd reason.. XIV has roots in XI, no it isn't XI, but so what? Iroha brought XI in to your world so perhaps a new argument is required hmm? Or maybe such silly put downs twards people should stop hmm..? Yup I'm a fangirl, I'm proud of it.

    At any rate back to the topic it could be difficult to add blu to xiv because as stated it is a vastly different system, i could see it maybe being done as a stance system..
    tank stance = tank/hate generating spells,
    dps/magic dps = damage or debuff spells,
    healer stance = healer spells. Ect
    And switching stances would just switch your spell set
    People liked the job in XI because it was able to be adapted to literally any situation and role in a party depending on the spells you picked from a duel wielding sword fighting battle mage to a tank to a healer, and the "killer" effects were great. Versatile jobs are nice, being able to adapt to situations is nice, having a sense of accomplishment over being good at your job is something that some people enjoy.

    If it ever does come about i am grabbing some thavnairian gear and remaking my XI blu artifact armor >.>
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    Last edited by Aryalandi; 03-14-2016 at 05:58 AM.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron View Post
    Uh, what? Since when is Aerial Slash and Aerial Blast not AOE?
    Radiant Shield adds up pretty nicely too. Its another "AoE" ability alongside flaming crush (which has higher potency than aerial slash, though im not sure on damage calculations between garuda and ifrit). Between ifrit having auto attacks and higher potencies, proper utilization of DWT and tri-disaster through contagion is needed to put garuda ahead.
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