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    Quote Originally Posted by Hainvelle View Post
    For me and my husband i am looking for a small plot anywhere. please write me with your price
    Sadly this is against the ToS and your thread will probably be removed soon. :\ But the selling of housing to other players and the buying of housing from other players is against the ToS. You can probably do a little digging and find the Screenshots of people ending up in GM jail or with temp bans over this situation on housing.

    You're best bet is to continue to watch the wards for automatic removals or wait for 3.3 when new wards are being added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    Sadly this is against the ToS.
    Where is the ToS does it say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenririon View Post
    Where is the ToS does it say that?
    GM's have been known to temp ban people for trying to sell houses in PF. My friend got a 24 hour ban for trying to sell his small in the mists. So it's in there somewhere. And as I said in my above post, there are screenshots floating around these forums of people being visited by GM's in GM jail who have said this is against the ToS and have issued temp bans and warnings. So again, it's in there somewhere if a GM teleports you to GM jail and visits you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenririon View Post
    Where is the ToS does it say that?
    They have it listed under scamming, cause a person is not actually selling a house they not even selling the plot they just selling insider information that they will give up the house. Which in return then have to buy the actual plot and housing permit from the system on top of what ever money was given to the other player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    They have it listed under scamming, cause a person is not actually selling a house they not even selling the plot they just selling insider information that they will give up the house. Which in return then have to buy the actual plot and housing permit from the system on top of what ever money was given to the other player.
    Where do they have it listed? Quote or link, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenririon View Post
    Where do they have it listed? Quote or link, please.
    Well the user agreement is located here and from screenshots people have posted of their warnings/GM chats, SE are classing it under section 3.2:

    3.2 Disruption.
    You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players, including without limitation the disruption of SQUARE ENIX’s computers and servers.
    The logic seeming to be that selling houses isn't part of the game and as housing is a very limited commodity, people trying to do things outside the system is a big no.

    Also near the top of the prohibited activies document ultimately says Square Enix can decide whatever they want is not allowed, even if it's not listed:

    At all times, SQUARE ENIX reserves the right to determine which activities may be considered prohibited or in violation of the terms of use
    If you search on Reddit for housing warning and similar in the ffxiv subreddit, you'll find lots of screenshots of GM tickets/conversations about this. There's probably some of these forums here too, but the searching isn't so great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenririon View Post
    Where do they have it listed? Quote or link, please.
    3.6 Any Illegal Activities. You may not conduct any illegal activities whatsoever in connection with the Game. This includes every illegal activity not specifically highlighted above, including without limitation gambling, defamation, harassment, and fraud.
    They would list it under fraud, like said in previous post many people advertise that they selling a "house" which they are not they only selling information that they going to give up their house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    They would list it under fraud, like said in previous post many people advertise that they selling a "house" which they are not they only selling information that they going to give up their house.
    Except selling an FC that has a house is also not allowed, and you are selling exactly what you said you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Except selling an FC that has a house is also not allowed, and you are selling exactly what you said you are.
    Never heard of a GM coming down on someone for selling a FC, but then again least on balmung they seem to few and far between of anyone trying to sell a FC. But this is technically a different subject (as if it should be allowed) from house selling as person actually selling a FC.
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