[spoilers]3.2 MSQ Discussion/Reaction thread

[Fenral]

Now... That has me casting doubts on what is really going on here with Elidibus and Urianger... Giving us the means to fulfill prophecy? Lets hope that's limited to Vanu legend, and not a certain piece of apocrypha that's seemingly being used to unite us against a common enemy...

I have a feeling Urianger wouldn't be talking about fighting destiny if he had been assured everything was going according to plan. Usually, a book becomes "apocrypha" when it says something that people don't want to hear, or contradicts something commonly held to be true. If going according to destiny was such a great thing for the world, the Gerun Oracles would never have become apocrypha.\

Only counterarguments I can think of involve citing either Tales of the Abyss or Kingdoms of Amalur. Both involve worlds with a set-in-stone "end of the world" approaching (literally in Abyss's case). In Tales of the Abyss, the one person with the good sense to try and fight back (by trying to destroy destiny itself) actually ended up being the primary cause of the foretold destruction, and in either case it took the intervention of someone who, for various plot reasons, wasn't recorded in fate to push the world past its deadline.

So while we most certainly have no choice but to fight whatever horrible fate awaits us, if it's written down in any detail our struggle against it could very well be as well, barring the existence of some loophole that Eldibus almost surely seeks to exploit. Hell, even if he does simply want to take over the world for himself, there has to be a world left for him to take over.

[AutumnHarvestwind]

ELDRANT

((*spits out coffee* i love tales of the abyss thank you for using that example okay i am back to lurking))

[CyrilLucifer]

Ooh Amalur. That game is certainly a very fascinating exercise of looking at fate.
Even the ability to defy it is somewhat similar to our Echo, what with tearing the fabric of existence.

I actually found some of the themes in that game regarding fate to be terribly disturbing.