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  1. #3141
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    And if you do not want to use swiftcast
    There is a thing that healer use all the time which is pre-cast
    It's only a matter of timing
    Once you learn it, it's piece of cake
    As the main healer, there is literally no reason to not Swiftcast there, even if only to be safe. It'll be up again before anyone has a chance to die unless someone is DCing in the middle of Ein Sof. Why leave your skills on CD? Use all of the tools available to you, especially when it has such a short CD, like Swiftcast does. Something like Benediction with its huge CD? Sure, save it. Swiftcast?

    Not even once on something as predictable as phase 1 that we all sleep through.

    Also, precasting blobs? There's the potential that you'll miss half of your party without Medica II. Even with SC and Sprint I still sometimes miss the ranged DDs who don't come in quickly enough (usually the BLM who just park themselves where they land with green, outside of Medica/Helios/whatever range). Then you risk having them die to the next AOE because you were too damn stubborn to use Swiftcast.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 03-12-2016 at 01:06 PM.

  2. #3142
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Just had the WORST M2 NORMAL RUN IN EXISTENCE >>;

    The list (in no particular order):
    1. None of the melee move for shadow ninja clone AoEs and a bunch of people die on Boss #1
    2. Melees not moving after land mines drop on them on Boss #1 and exploding land mines to paralyze all melees
    3. PLD that didn't know how to give shared beam on Boss #2
    4. Some reason 3 melee DPS died to tank buster beam on Boss #2 because PLD tank decided to 'voke on flank when tank buster beam was about to go
    5. Five people in four circle orb on Boss #3
    6. SCH partner + I happily hanging out in two orb circle on Boss #3 when DRG decides "HEY I WANT IN ON THIS PARTY TOO" and jumps in a second before it explodes and dies.
    7. MNK on boss #4 with Elemental Jammer debuff decides he wants to soak all the melee
    8. MT dunno how to move boss #4 after ground AoEs prevent rear/flank attacks on boss

    There's probably more that I missed but yeah, I think that sums up the WTF factor.

    At least I got my Bolt?
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  3. #3143
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    GeekMatt's Avatar
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    Stormageddon Oath
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Why is there always a third wheel jumping into the 2man circle when you're prepped for it way ahead of time D:
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  4. #3144
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    MayuraT's Avatar
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    Mayura Takamori
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Miyha View Post
    GREAT ONE OMG:

    priceless statement from one tank: "How do you expect me to dodge the boss's attacks when I am the TANK?" LMAO! QQ; )
    HAHAHA, priceless indeed, i couldn't stop laughing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyha View Post

    ...but INSTEAD... One of the DPS says, "...Why don't you do your job and try healing instead?"
    ... Naturally, when someone fires at me and I don't deserve it, I fire back. I was even defending the SCH. Yet for some strange reason when I decided to make a snarky comment after we cleared, the SCH said I was "being a child"?
    Don't worry, mentally 5-year olds like to hang with people with similar mental capabilities.
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  5. #3145
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    MayuraT's Avatar
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    Mayura Takamori
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 68

    another one of those days...

    One thing that really irked me: once on Cuchulainn, all pts were doing poorly, DDs needed to grab all dot effects possible (me whm & co-healer sch), by the time boss does the unavoidable AOE vomit spit 1 pt completely dead, the other has 3 alive, our pt is alive but semi-low hp > black lung > not enough abled bodies > we wiped.

    2nd try, i ask sch if she could help w/ leeches so instead of casting esuna 5-6 times in a row while she just feeds her heals into the high dmg dots endlessly, i could help heal other pts instead. 2 min later, sch goes "sorry you guys are stuck with an inadequate healer" then quites. i was confused and stunned lol... i mean, i even explained why+asked nicely (:X) if she knew she was inadequate, wouldn't she want to attempt to be more adequate? @_@;

    The run itself turned out fine after that, new ast showed up almost instantly and i could help with MT heals and also raised other inadequate healers w/ no prob
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  6. #3146
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    Opus's Avatar
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    Hel Vel
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    Hades
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MayuraT View Post
    One thing that really irked me: once on Cuchulainn, all pts were doing poorly, DDs needed to grab all dot effects possible (me whm & co-healer sch), by the time boss does the unavoidable AOE vomit spit 1 pt completely dead, the other has 3 alive, our pt is alive but semi-low hp > black lung > not enough abled bodies > we wiped.
    Corrosive Bile actually is avoidable.
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  7. #3147
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    True fact
    Well i do agree, it Does help if you need it.
    And yeah the spell can reload almost 2/3 time during the whole p1
    I do not need it and prefer to handle it by pre-casting since all attack are easy to prédiction.
    I mean as diurnal AST I never had problem.

    The only 2 time lose someone, that was the bard who forgot to pack and stay out of range
    And the smn who did the same.
    That was not a casting problem just a LAZY player problem XD i won't single heal them and maybe losing my tank


    ...

    But i don't disagree i was more saying that there is an other way without it.
    Plus i tend to see people dying right after i swiftcast heal... So now i forbid myself doing it XD
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  8. #3148
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    Noxifer's Avatar
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    C'alih Tia
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Opus View Post
    Corrosive Bile actually is avoidable.
    Well, yes. But not the one that covers the entire floor including platforms. I kinda figured that's the one MayuraT meant ^^;
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  9. #3149
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    Well i do agree, it Does help if you need it.
    And yeah the spell can reload almost 2/3 time during the whole p1
    I do not need it and prefer to handle it by pre-casting since all attack are easy to prédiction.
    I mean as diurnal AST I never had problem.

    The only 2 time lose someone, that was the bard who forgot to pack and stay out of range
    And the smn who did the same.
    That was not a casting problem just a LAZY player problem XD i won't single heal them and maybe losing my tank
    ...

    But i don't disagree i was more saying that there is an other way without it.
    Plus i tend to see people dying right after i swiftcast heal... So now i forbid myself doing it XD
    It's very easy to move in-position after the puddles to hit everyone with Medica/Helios. Thanks to two great skills in this game:

    Light speed or Swiftcast Medica/Helios > Medica/Helios.

    You can Tetra/ED instant someone who is low even before AoE heals. The tank buster comes after the two AoEs and you can Disable that one if it's up, so that isn't true at all about possibly losing a tank. It's called knowing the script of the fight and reacting to it. But saying you won't Swiftcast because you, yourself, didn't see it work is a lousy argument to make. Plus White Mage only has Swiftcast. The job of a healer isn't just to heal but to try save any situation within your power.
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    Last edited by technole; 03-14-2016 at 11:12 PM.

  10. #3150
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    so that isn't true at all about possibly losing a tank
    Totally agree for AST, but for WHM, yes it is. Unless you have Benediction out of cooldown, wasting Tetra on a DPS before a tankbuster is a no no, especially when you have Swiftcast on CD. Of course we could argue that there's another healer helping too, but unless you're doing it with a friend, it's extremely dangerous to totally rely on your co-healer on pick-up groups.
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